on vanessas cage the bottom has that white wood that's waterproof(i dont know whats it's called) on zulus cage we put a sheet of plexiglass on the bottom so water doesnt soak through to the wood. so far i havn't had a probablem with mites. ok, i thinks that's it. thanks guys, i appreciate it.

oh and, does it look like the snakes would feel secure in those cages? you know as far as the cage being to big or particularly zulus shoebax not being a secure enough hide? i'll see what i can do for vanessa.