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    Post Exotics ban in Kentucky

    From Herp Digest:

    Exotic Animals Face Ban In Kentucky
    By Elizabeth Troutman
    Kentucky Post staff reporter 6/30/05

    Wanda Wanner never wanted an elephant or rhinoceros for her small
    petting zoo in Campbell County.

    She was looking to purchase a lemur, a small exotic monkey, for her
    51-acre farm before she found out the state was banning private
    individuals from owning primates and dozens of other exotic animals.

    "It was just a mouth-open reaction when I read some of the things on
    there," she said of the list, which was adopted June 14 by a legislative
    subcommittee when it amended Title 301 of Kentucky Fish and Wildlife
    regulations.

    The ban on owning exotic animals will go into effect July 12 unless the
    Interim Natural Resources and Agriculture Committee objects.

    Wanner's petting zoo has domestic animals - goats, cattle, kittens
    among them - but she also owns a water buffalo and was hoping to add the
    lemur and perhaps other exotic pets. She thinks some of the more than 60
    types of animals on the list are harmless and others - like elephants
    and rhinoceroses - are unnecessary to mention.

    "It was such random things," she said. "A hit and pick here and there,
    it didn't have any research there."

    State Sen. @@@@ Roeding, Lakeside Park, co-chairman of the
    subcommittee, said the amendment holds the same power as a law once it is passed by
    the Interim Agriculture and Natural Resource Committee.

    Jim Lane, wildlife program coordinator at the state Department of Fish
    and Wildlife, said the initiative intends to protect the health and
    welfare of Kentuckians.

    "The public health risk was too high not to act," he said. "Private
    individuals aren't trained and don't have the proper facilities to own
    these pets."

    Lane said the Department of Fish and Wildlife started pushing for
    statewide regulation of exotic pets in the mid-1990s. A group of concerned
    wildlife professionals in the state expressed interest in the initiative
    in December and backed Fish and Wildlife in moving a proposal forward.

    The state is not interested in collecting exotic animals, so the
    amendment includes a grandfather clause that protects pets from being taken
    away by the state. Owners may keep exotic animals until they die, but
    may not purchase new ones.

    April Truitt, director and founder of the Primate Rescue Center in
    Nicholasville, testified before the committee that monkeys are only good
    pets when they are extremely young.

    "The image you have in your mind is an infant," she said of the
    Capuchin monkey, the most common pet monkey. "They spend the vast majority of
    their lives being unwanted. They are cute and cuddly for a brief period
    of time."

    The subcommittee also heard testimony supporting the ban from
    representatives of the Newport Aquarium, the Louisville Zoo and the Department
    of Fish and Wildlife. The motion was approved unanimously.

    Kentucky Fish and Wildlife defines an exotic animal as a "terrestrial
    wildlife species which has never naturally existed in the wild in
    Kentucky."

    Pam Lyons-Gromen, a husbandry director at Newport Aquarium, said she
    receives hundreds of calls every year from owners of exotic animals
    wanting to donate reptiles to the aquarium.

    "We really got involved because of issues with venomous reptiles," she
    said. "It's from a public safety standpoint."

    Lyons-Gromen said a handful of upset monkey owners attended the meeting
    to object to the amendment.

    Dan Evans, director of the Kenton Country Animal Shelter, said Boone
    and Kenton counties outlawed exotic pets several years ago. Covington
    banned exotic animals in 2003, imposing $250 to $500 fines for those who
    violate the ordinance.


    PROHIBITED PETS, WILDLIFE
    Exotic animals on list of prohibited domestic pets:

    Birds — Baya weaver; blackbird; cape sparrow; cowbird, cuckoo (except
    native species), European blackbird; Madagascar weaver; monk or Quaker
    parakeet; sky lark; weaver finch; mute swan.

    Mammals — fieldfare; flying fox or fruit bat; Gambian giant-pouched
    rat; jack rabbit; prairie dog; raccoon dog; San Juan rabbit;
    slender-tailed meerkat; wild European rabbit.
    Inherently dangerous wildlife includes:

    Mammals — African buffalo; bear; cheetah; clouded leopard; elephant;
    hippopotamus; honey badger; hyenas; lions, jaguars, leopards and tigers;
    old world badger; primates; rhinoceros; snow leopard; wolverine.

    Reptiles — Gila monsters or beaded lizard; adder or viper; alligator or
    caiman; sea snake; venomous rear-fanged species (except for hognose
    snake); cobra, mamba or coral snake; crocodile.

    (Editor - The bill passed and has became law)
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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    Hmm, its a very hit or miss list, so am I to understand I cant keep a cobra, but a rattlesnake or lancehead would be fine to keep or are those all inclusive under "adder or viper"
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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    I like how they were smart enough to exempt hognose snakes from the rear-fanged venomous catagory.

    From the summary....I could not figure out if it was all exotics or just certain ones??
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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    Dang. So much for that pet wolverine. guess I'll have to opt for that adamantium procedure.
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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    Thats aweful!

    Hmm means if I lived there, I would not have been able to acquire my gambian pouched rats, and my sister should not have her quaker parakeet (commonly sold in pet stores)..


    And so much for my life long dream of having an elephant too.....


    Thankfully, I dont live there, and I feel for those who have any of those animals listed on thier list of cannot haves.. here we dont have to strict laws, in fact, to my knowledge, you can have big cats here as long as you have a permit for them. I wonder if I can have my elephant then..
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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    I don't want to sound like I'm stirring up controversy for the sake of it but a lot of this sounds pretty sensible and/or the right thing to do. The title of this thread made me think Kentucky had banned anything more exotice than a guinea pig but I don't think most people would argue that crocodiles make good pets or that keeping elelphants in your garden is a great idea. I'm sure there are totally justifiable issues with some of the animals listed being blacklisted but I'm firmly opposed to any private individual keeping primates (besides their own sprogs that is ), it just isn't on.

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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    Somebody ought to outlaw the keeping of teenagers (or at least provide free meds to those like me that have 2 of them and 1 not far behind) LOL.


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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    The one I really do not understand is a quaker parakeet.. one of the finest pet parrots one could own. Great talkers, very intelligent, and playful. Not two weeks ago I was playing with one.

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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby
    The one I really do not understand is a quaker parakeet.. one of the finest pet parrots one could own. Great talkers, very intelligent, and playful. Not two weeks ago I was playing with one.

    I'm not much of a bird person, but I know that it is illegal to sell or own one (there is a grandfather law) here in CT. The reason was apperantly we have quite a few that were released and have been thriving well. (again I don't know much about these birds) but they have taken up quite a residence and are taking out some native species of other birds. (I assume through deminishing their food sources (?)) so I know we cannot own them here. I guess there was alott of hoo haa about it.
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    Re: Exotics ban in Kentucky

    Quote Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Somebody ought to outlaw the keeping of teenagers (or at least provide free meds to those like me that have 2 of them and 1 not far behind) LOL.


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