Quote Originally Posted by frankykeno
Now on Ralph Davis site it mentions classic Pastels...are these also called "Jungles"?
Technically, pastels started out as "Pastel Jungles" when NERD proved them out many years ago due to their resemblance to the "classic jungles" that show up in captive breedings here and there. "Pastel" is just a shortened version that has become the standard over the years. Pastel Jungle and Pastel are one in the same.

Quote Originally Posted by frankykeno
As well he mentions Lemon Pastel as a separate morph. So I'm to understand they are separate and not just different "shades" of the same morph? In other words a classic bred to a lemon Pastel would produce what?
Lemon pastels or "Lemon Pastel Jungles" to be official are just a "line" of pastels. They were proven by NERD and have characteristics that sometimes distinguish them from other pastel "lines". Lemon pastels that I have produced have a brighter "neon" yellow coloration with very little orange (orange turns brown as pastels get older) and hold their coloration very well into adulthood. Lemon pastels also have a deeper, darker black coloration that doesn't typically have the fading seen in other pastels lines which gives them a very sharp black on yellow contrast.

Quote Originally Posted by frankykeno
Of course we know in any breeding nothing is absolute but do we have the basics of the punnet square sorted out reasonably well?
Just a side note about punnets square and odds .... Last year I bred my lemon pastel male to one of my largest normal females .... she laid 14 eggs ... every single one of them was normal. I think a lot of people believe that the 50/50 thing is just about a given when it comes to pastel clutches, but in my experience it certainly isn't. Breeding these animals will humble you, that I know for certain.

I just thought that was important to point out for anyone thinking about investing in these animals. Research, research, research, and like any other investment, only spend what you can afford to lose.

Joanna, I got your email and will get back to you in the morning when I'm a little more coherent ... I don't want to make any mistakes in my half sleepedness!

-adam