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    HGW/Yellow Belly + ??? (parents genetics known)

    I have two hatchlings from separate clutches pre-shed, I think they are both the same genetics, but I'm confused as to what that would be...

    Parents for both are HGW/Lesser/Yellow Belly x Ivory (Super YB)/Spider

    The first hatchling below has more yellow and the second one is whiter than my axanthics pre-shed.
    I have not adjusted the color of the snakes in the photos below.

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    The clutchmates are not useful for comparison ID because so far they are either Yellow Belly or Ivory.
    I am hatching out a few more as I post this though.

    There are only so many genetic options that #1 + #2 can be...What do you think?

    This is a photo of the HGW/Lesser/Yellow Belly father:
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    Re: HGW/Yellow Belly + ??? (parents genetics known)

    I ran the photos through some different AI's and they claimed Spider/Lesser/Yellow Belly, but they thought Hidden Gene Woma was prominent.

    ChatGPT thought HGW/Spider/Lesser/Yellow Belly, but also kept insisting I give it the correct answer. I told it that I thought HGW/Spider was embryonic lethal and it got even more aggressive about demanding the correct answer...and insisted I answer an entire panel of questions (no thanks!).

    Of course I trust AI as much as a hungry anaconda to babysit my cats...so there is that....
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    I wouldn't trust AI much either.
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    Re: HGW/Yellow Belly + ??? (parents genetics known)

    I don’t know anything about BP genetics but those are some beautiful critters!
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    Re: HGW/Yellow Belly + ??? (parents genetics known)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    I wouldn't trust AI much either.
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    I don’t know anything about BP genetics but those are some beautiful critters!
    Thanks!

    Yeah...I can't figure out what the genetics on these two are...depending upon what I have offspring this year I may end up holding them to proof breed.
    I assume their color will change as they get older and maybe they just look weird when they are young.

    I looked up Rare Genetics Inc. to see what they were charging these days for their 50 morph panel test: $139.
    I'm sure that is a reasonable price, but I'm not dropping that much cash for a curiosity.
    $139 would get me me 278lbs. of rodent food (at $0.50/lb) or nearly 28lbs. of Red Hematoid Quartz at ($5.00/lb).

    I spoke with another bp breeder and he said that if they are Spider/HGW I will know it when they just randomly keel over in the new few weeks....
    I'm hoping that doesn't happen...

    My partner looked at the snakes and with her basic ID Skills: she thinks Axanthic, but there is no way.
    Axanthic was never introduced into the parental breeding lines and I've never seen *any* axanthics show up randomly in my population.
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    Let's hope they don't "keel over".
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