Curious if these are super od / super enchi pieds

[Ben_CincySnakes]

Im new into breeding, making super od and super enchi
can I get a little help? super OD is a very clean patten , not much "muddy" dark colors on the edging ? how can I see super enchi ? I see lots of pieds with very very reduced pattern and still labeled as a reg enchi pied.
2 pics of each snake
pairing was
od enchi yb pied
od enchi fire pied

[Lord Sorril]

Nice snakes!

Odds based on your cross listed:
Super OD = 1/4
Super Enchi = 1/4
Super OD/Super Enchi: (!/4)(1/4) = 1/16

I would expect a reduced pattern on the head: With a Super OD/Super Enchi/Piebald looking something like this: https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...ythons/2946755

[Ben_CincySnakes]

Nice snakes!

Odds based on your cross listed:
Super OD = 1/4
Super Enchi = 1/4
Super OD/Super Enchi: (!/4)(1/4) = 1/16

I would expect a reduced pattern on the head: With a Super OD/Super Enchi/Piebald looking something like this: https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...ythons/2946755

Kinova always makes amazing snakes , and some how look way better than everyone else. I am even seeing some super od enchi pied with out with reduced pattern heads
Super OD Enchi Pied Ball Pythons by Adam Chesla Reptiles - MorphMarket

would you say either of mine are just super od enchi pieds?

[Lord Sorril]

Kinova always makes amazing snakes , and some how look way better than everyone else. I am even seeing some super od enchi pied with out with reduced pattern heads
Super OD Enchi Pied Ball Pythons by Adam Chesla Reptiles - MorphMarket

would you say either of mine are just super od enchi pieds?

Kinova was founded by Justin Kobylka: He has been breeding snakes for a long time on a commercial level-His reputation is well known.

There are a lot of ball pythons on Morphmarket that have 'questionable' ID's, and without genetic testing: I can't blame the sellers for trying their best. I personally would list the parental cross in the description as a disclaimer: In the event that someone disagrees now (or in the future)...

I think Enchi and Orange Dream can be pretty obfuscated in the single gene form. I would not want to hazard a guess as to whether or not there is a Super OD present with both Fire and YB as possible background genetics...

[Ben_CincySnakes]

Kinova was founded by Justin Kobylka: He has been breeding snakes for a long time on a commercial level-His reputation is well known.

There are a lot of ball pythons on Morphmarket that have 'questionable' ID's, and without genetic testing: I can't blame the sellers for trying their best. I personally would list the parental cross in the description as a disclaimer: In the event that someone disagrees now (or in the future)...

I think Enchi and Orange Dream can be pretty obfuscated in the single gene form. I would not want to hazard a guess as to whether or not there is a Super OD present with both Fire and YB as possible background genetics...

Thanks for the help
Looking on MM and trying to learn genetics is very confusing, even posting on a facebook you get 10 different answers lol. I guess $35 at the shed testing sites might be worth it.