New Hatchling Passed Away

[Bogertophis]

Oh wow, thank you! Very sad to find something that could have helped him that's so simple, but by golly I will definitely be doing this now, with help from my vet until I'm comfortable doing it myself. Do people usually just give it with their newbies, or is it something they give every now and then even after they're settled in? Also, if I was to bring the little girl for a quick checkup and a dose of that, how much stress do you think that will be putting on her? I was going to wait for a physical until she was over 200 grams and wasn't being picky (though she does eat) but I don't really want to wait now that I've got concerns, especially when they were from the same breeder and in the same rack system.

Yes, hindsight can be frustrating & sad. What we don't know can definitely hurt both our pets & us.

From the linked material-
Metronidazole (Flagyl). Used on intestinal flagellates and for amoebiasis at a dose of 100-200 mg/kg PO, repeated in 2 weeks. A dose of 40-50 mg/kg PO should be used in colubrid snakes since there have been some problems with the higher doses in some species. There are reports that Flagyl works as an appetite stimulant in reptiles. This drug is also good for anaerobic bacterial infections. A recent pharmacokinetics report recommends a dose of 20 mg/kg PO Q 48 hours in yellow rat snakes (Kolmstetter et al. 2001).

So no, it's not something you "do every now & then"- it's repeated after 2 weeks. ^ ^ ^

And if other internal parasites are suspected, Panacur is also very useful. (snakes can have worms) Also from the linked material above:
Fenbendazole (Panacur). A good parasiticide for intestinal nematodes. Can be given orally at a dose of 50-100 mg/kg and repeated in 2 weeks.

https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/he...nd%20livestock.
"Panacur is the brand name of an oral deworming medication with the active ingredient fenbendazole. It is used to treat internal parasites in domestic animals, including dogs, cats, horses, and livestock."

Medical issues for snakes aren't the "fun part" but if you're thinking about keeping more & breeding, it's stuff you need to learn about. And-or have the money to pay a good vet who has a degree & experience with treating all these things.

Ideally, no matter what kind of pets you keep, there's always more expenses than just the day to day cost of keeping them, & it's recommended to always have some savings put aside for medical issues- that's being a responsible owner, & usually means less grief when things go wrong, because animals are living creatures just like us, & sooner or later, health issues happen.

[Python_Liqueur]

Yes, hindsight can be frustrating & sad. What we don't know can definitely hurt both our pets & us.

From the linked material-
Metronidazole (Flagyl). Used on intestinal flagellates and for amoebiasis at a dose of 100-200 mg/kg PO, repeated in 2 weeks. A dose of 40-50 mg/kg PO should be used in colubrid snakes since there have been some problems with the higher doses in some species. There are reports that Flagyl works as an appetite stimulant in reptiles. This drug is also good for anaerobic bacterial infections. A recent pharmacokinetics report recommends a dose of 20 mg/kg PO Q 48 hours in yellow rat snakes (Kolmstetter et al. 2001).

So no, it's not something you "do every now & then"- it's repeated after 2 weeks. ^ ^ ^

And if other internal parasites are suspected, Panacur is also very useful. (snakes can have worms) Also from the linked material above:
Fenbendazole (Panacur). A good parasiticide for intestinal nematodes. Can be given orally at a dose of 50-100 mg/kg and repeated in 2 weeks.

https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/he...nd%20livestock.
"Panacur is the brand name of an oral deworming medication with the active ingredient fenbendazole. It is used to treat internal parasites in domestic animals, including dogs, cats, horses, and livestock."

Medical issues for snakes aren't the "fun part" but if you're thinking about keeping more & breeding, it's stuff you need to learn about. And-or have the money to pay a good vet who has a degree & experience with treating all these things.

Ideally, no matter what kind of pets you keep, there's always more expenses than just the day to day cost of keeping them, & it's recommended to always have some savings put aside for medical issues- that's being a responsible owner, & usually means less grief when things go wrong, because animals are living creatures just like us, & sooner or later, health issues happen.

Thank you so much. And yeah, medical issues are not fun, but I do enjoy learning about them, so I'm sure I can manage!

I've got a couple hundred squared away for things, and I'm working on getting a job now after I left my other because of management. Once I've got one you can be sure I'm keeping stuff aside!

I've been planning to get this book (https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ball...1938850459/ref) because I've seen it highly recommended for learning more advanced care and things you need to know before making any breeding plans. Do you have any opinions on it or other things to read that aren't just your basic care guide?

[Bogertophis]

Thank you so much. And yeah, medical issues are not fun, but I do enjoy learning about them, so I'm sure I can manage!

I've got a couple hundred squared away for things, and I'm working on getting a job now after I left my other because of management. Once I've got one you can be sure I'm keeping stuff aside!

I've been planning to get this book (https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ball...1938850459/ref) because I've seen it highly recommended for learning more advanced care and things you need to know before making any breeding plans. Do you have any opinions on it or other things to read that aren't just your basic care guide?

A couple hundred may sound like a lot, but it doesn't go very far. When breeding snakes, there's no guarantee that you'll break even, much less make money. Many people just lose money. Especially in BPs these days- the market is very saturated, & making more snakes that you love but can't sell & get stuck keeping or giving them away is not a good business model. It's also sad for the snakes, if you care about them, because cheap or free snakes are too often not valued for long by their new owner. Because hey, it wasn't a big investment, so? There's exceptions but that's just "human nature".

As far as I know, that's a good read, but I haven't read it- I've kept some BPs in the past, but they're not my favorite snakes at all- just not my focus. I'd recommend reading more than one of the recent snake books actually. You might not have to buy them all- see if your library can get them for you. It can't hurt to ask. Why not start a thread asking for current recommended reading? (I'm just the wrong one to ask for BP-books.)

[Python_Liqueur]

A couple hundred may sound like a lot, but it doesn't go very far. When breeding snakes, there's no guarantee that you'll break even, much less make money. Many people just lose money. Especially in BPs these days- the market is very saturated, & making more snakes that you love but can't sell & get stuck keeping or giving them away is not a good business model. It's also sad for the snakes, if you care about them, because cheap or free snakes are too often not valued for long by their new owner. Because hey, it wasn't a big investment, so? There's exceptions but that's just "human nature".

As far as I know, that's a good read, but I haven't read it- I've kept some BPs in the past, but they're not my favorite snakes at all- just not my focus. I'd recommend reading more than one of the recent snake books actually. You might not have to buy them all- see if your library can get them for you. It can't hurt to ask. Why not start a thread asking for current recommended reading? (I'm just the wrong one to ask for BP-books.)

Agreed, one of my big goals in getting a new job is to save up a decent amount of "surprise incident" funds... And yeah, I don't want to end up breeding up a bunch of babies that can't get good forever homes. Perhaps it would be better to look into other species, I'm interest in mexican kings as well and I'm not sure how the market for them is, but I know I don't see hoards of them everywhere. Either way though, won't be anytime soon! Lot's of research to do.

And oh man I haven't been to the library is forever that's a great point! I feel a little bad, I loved going to the library as a kid.