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I get my quail and really, all of my feeders from Layne Labs.
Not the least expensive, but the quality is good and almost all of the animals here are adults so 1 purchase lasts a long time.
Bredli will usually take what you offer.
Layne has some really small rabbits also for when your animal gets a bit older.
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Re: Getting a Hypo (50%)/66% het Genetic Stripe Bredli! + Q's
 Originally Posted by Gio
I get my quail and really, all of my feeders from Layne Labs.
Not the least expensive, but the quality is good and almost all of the animals here are adults so 1 purchase lasts a long time.
Bredli will usually take what you offer.
Layne has some really small rabbits also for when your animal gets a bit older.
Over the years I have ordered at least a couple of times from the big F/T suppliers and nobody has come close to the quality of feeders from Layne Labs. They're definitely my go-to, though I know some folks may need to consider less expensive options. Their feeder prices are comparable to other suppliers, but shipping from California may not be an option for some. Still, if at all possible I would always recommend them over anyone else.
This may or may not be important to all, but I also did phone interviews with most of the big suppliers about how they treat their feeders. Layne really impressed me with their dedication to ethical and humane care standards, seemed to take the conversation very seriously, treated the questions respectfully, and didn't just toss canned or casual responses at me. Friends who have visited their facilities have reported being very impressed - they also run a big Sulcata tortoise rescue facility on their property. They just seem to 'walk their talk' in terms of animal welfare, and that means a lot to me.
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2.0 Dumeril's Boas 'Gyre' and 'Titan'
1.0 Stimson's Python 'Jake'
1.1 Children's Pythons 'Miso' and 'Ozzy'
1.0 Anthill Python 'Cricket'
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1.1 Rough-scaled Sand Boas 'Rassi' and 'Kala'
1.0 Ball Python (BEL) 'Sugar'
1.0 Gray-banded Kingsnake 'Nacho'
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Re: Getting a Hypo (50%)/66% het Genetic Stripe Bredli! + Q's
 Originally Posted by Caitlin
Over the years I have ordered at least a couple of times from the big F/T suppliers and nobody has come close to the quality of feeders from Layne Labs. They're definitely my go-to, though I know some folks may need to consider less expensive options. Their feeder prices are comparable to other suppliers, but shipping from California may not be an option for some. Still, if at all possible I would always recommend them over anyone else.
This may or may not be important to all, but I also did phone interviews with most of the big suppliers about how they treat their feeders. Layne really impressed me with their dedication to ethical and humane care standards, seemed to take the conversation very seriously, treated the questions respectfully, and didn't just toss canned or casual responses at me. Friends who have visited their facilities have reported being very impressed - they also run a big Sulcata tortoise rescue facility on their property. They just seem to 'walk their talk' in terms of animal welfare, and that means a lot to me.
Thanks for sharing. I've never gone this far but do care about this. Have you spoken with Reptilinks?
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Re: Getting a Hypo (50%)/66% het Genetic Stripe Bredli! + Q's
 Originally Posted by Wanik4
Thanks for sharing. I've never gone this far but do care about this. Have you spoken with Reptilinks?
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Oh, good question. I'd love to know how they respond. I've only used Reptilinks in a limited way, so have placed only a few orders with them. I used the quail links as a primary food for a young Dumeril's who was a real problem feeder for two freaking years - I wanted the caloric density of the links - and as an occasional treat for any of my other snakes who would take them (most of my snakes like them).
But I've honestly stepped back from using them. I think they are a fine food source, but many of my snakes strike the links so hard that they sort of blow them apart. And after that they either eat only part of it or seem to lose interest in the mess. I don't like wasting food or feeling like the feeder animals died for no reason, so I doubt I will re-order since the Dumeril's is now happily eating chicks (thank GOD).
1.0 Jungle Carpet Python 'Ziggy'
1.0 Bredl's Python 'Calcifer'
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa 'Mara'
1.1 Tarahumara Mountain Boas 'Paco' and 'Frida'
2.0 Dumeril's Boas 'Gyre' and 'Titan'
1.0 Stimson's Python 'Jake'
1.1 Children's Pythons 'Miso' and 'Ozzy'
1.0 Anthill Python 'Cricket'
1.0 Plains Hognose 'Peanut'
1.1 Rough-scaled Sand Boas 'Rassi' and 'Kala'
1.0 Ball Python (BEL) 'Sugar'
1.0 Gray-banded Kingsnake 'Nacho'
1.0 Green Tree Python (Aru) 'Jade'
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Re: Getting a Hypo (50%)/66% het Genetic Stripe Bredli! + Q's
 Originally Posted by Caitlin
Oh, good question. I'd love to know how they respond. I've only used Reptilinks in a limited way, so have placed only a few orders with them. I used the quail links as a primary food for a young Dumeril's who was a real problem feeder for two freaking years - I wanted the caloric density of the links - and as an occasional treat for any of my other snakes who would take them (most of my snakes like them).
But I've honestly stepped back from using them. I think they are a fine food source, but many of my snakes strike the links so hard that they sort of blow them apart. And after that they either eat only part of it or seem to lose interest in the mess. I don't like wasting food or feeling like the feeder animals died for no reason, so I doubt I will re-order since the Dumeril's is now happily eating chicks (thank GOD).
Yeah I just placed an order to try them with my HD burm. I too like the mix of proteins and caloric value, and had considered the possibility of it breaking. Since I only place food in my enclosure and don't allow striking it'll be interesting to see how it goes. He does coil it still but if it doesn't work I'll get a refund. They said to send a pic of the uneaten food so I'll just take that photo earlier rather than later. I may reach out to them to see their thoughts on feeder care.
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Re: Getting a Hypo (50%)/66% het Genetic Stripe Bredli! + Q's
I bet you will be fine with drop feeding. I had to drop feed the Dum and while he hits like a little truck he never 'exploded' a link. My issue is that I target train almost all of my snakes, so I tong-feed, and that is where I have the exploding link problem, lol. Reptilink is a very nice company to deal with in terms of issuing refunds or replacements, so here's hoping everything is smooth sailing for you and your Burm.
1.0 Jungle Carpet Python 'Ziggy'
1.0 Bredl's Python 'Calcifer'
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa 'Mara'
1.1 Tarahumara Mountain Boas 'Paco' and 'Frida'
2.0 Dumeril's Boas 'Gyre' and 'Titan'
1.0 Stimson's Python 'Jake'
1.1 Children's Pythons 'Miso' and 'Ozzy'
1.0 Anthill Python 'Cricket'
1.0 Plains Hognose 'Peanut'
1.1 Rough-scaled Sand Boas 'Rassi' and 'Kala'
1.0 Ball Python (BEL) 'Sugar'
1.0 Gray-banded Kingsnake 'Nacho'
1.0 Green Tree Python (Aru) 'Jade'
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Re: Getting a Hypo (50%)/66% het Genetic Stripe Bredli! + Q's
 Originally Posted by Caitlin
Over the years I have ordered at least a couple of times from the big F/T suppliers and nobody has come close to the quality of feeders from Layne Labs. They're definitely my go-to, though I know some folks may need to consider less expensive options. Their feeder prices are comparable to other suppliers, but shipping from California may not be an option for some. Still, if at all possible I would always recommend them over anyone else.
This may or may not be important to all, but I also did phone interviews with most of the big suppliers about how they treat their feeders. Layne really impressed me with their dedication to ethical and humane care standards, seemed to take the conversation very seriously, treated the questions respectfully, and didn't just toss canned or casual responses at me. Friends who have visited their facilities have reported being very impressed - they also run a big Sulcata tortoise rescue facility on their property. They just seem to 'walk their talk' in terms of animal welfare, and that means a lot to me.
Nice write-up and good info on the treatment of the feeders.
I'll add, I've never had a stinky or urine stained rat or rabbit. I remember there were rumblings a bit ago about headless quail. All I can say is the necks on quail are very fragile and once they are packed and frozen together, the heads sometimes fall off when separating them.
I have never seen a better packing job from any supplier to date. The coolers are lined with reflective insulation. The quail is in a zipped bag within a zip locked outer bag.
The bags are vacuum packed and because I'm a child at heart, I take the dry ice out of the cooler and put it in a hot water bucket.
The only negative is the shipping cost.
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