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    Re: snake finally coming out

    will try when i can but the bowl is 10" long so if i had to say she is about 15 inch
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    Re: snake finally coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberrus View Post
    will try when i can but the bowl is 10" long so if i had to say she is about 15 inch
    So now you need to define (show?) what you are talking about with rodent sizes. You do know that rats & mice are different species? & they come in many sizes, but most spotted pythons are not raised on pinky rats because pinky rats are too big for hatchling spotted pythons- they can only manage pinky MICE. Your snake, if 15" now, can best manage fuzzy (eyes closed) mice or pinky rat, but not a "weaned rat". I'm just trying to help, but your posts have been very confusing.
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    Re: snake finally coming out

    hey ya sorry i will try to get a pic but i usually just ask for a weaned rat and its white and black. The only reason i feed her that kind is because the previous owner said she fed her that and that the snake is very picky and only eats weaned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberrus View Post
    hey ya sorry i will try to get a pic but i usually just ask for a weaned rat and its white and black. The only reason i feed her that kind is because the previous owner said she fed her that and that the snake is very picky and only eats weaned
    Weaned means that "eyes are open & eating solid food, not just nursing" which sounds like it's too big for your 15" snake to eat even IF it's a mouse* & NOT a "rat"!

    And when either a young rat or mouse is "black & white", that means their fur is in- so yes, a weaned RAT is MUCH TOO BIG for your 15" snake. (Are you SERIOUS?)

    If your poor snake is hungry enough to somehow choke that down, that's why she threw up last time- that is HARMFUL to your snake. DO NOT FEED such large things to a small snake. If your snake is truly 15" (& there's no way I can tell from that photo) she should be eating MICE- either fuzzies or very small hopper, and nothing that is wider than her mid-body- preferably less than.
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    Re: snake finally coming out

    like i said i am just going off of what the previous owner told me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberrus View Post
    like i said i am just going off of what the previous owner told me
    But yet you're here, asking for help, & not getting help from the previous owner. Hint, sometimes people are not honest that sell things- to make a sale, they tell you whatever you want to hear. Now & then, they're selling an animal that they haven't even kept for long- ie. they're "flipping it" for a friend, or maybe it was even stolen. It's been known to happen. It's also possible that in the stress of the moment (buying a pet) you misunderstood them. It doesn't matter now.

    The bottom line is we're trying our level best to help you, but to do that, we need accurate information about your snake (it's size & the size of prey you're trying to feed it) and the conditions it's being kept under. (ie. temperatures, available hides, type of cage, handling, etc.)

    It doesn't matter what the previous owner told you at this point. You cannot expect our answers to be of much help if you can't bother to provide the information we need to get you on the right track with this snake. Who do you think is more trustworthy? Someone you made a one-time purchase from for $, & that isn't helping you now, or people on a forum that just try to help others -for free- because they love & care about snakes?

    You have one more option, & that is to pay an exotic vet to find out why your snake threw up it's meal. https://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661
    If I was sure that your snake is sick, that would be my first suggestion (to see a vet) but vets deal with medical issues, & your snake may simply have a husbandry issue- & that's our specialty here. That's what I've been trying to help you figure out.

    And if it seems like I've been pushing you for answers, that's because in a previous thread you said this snake hasn't eaten at all for 3 months- & you've only fed it once since you've had it but it threw that up- so IF this snake is actually only about a year old (as you guessed) & IF it's only about 15" long (as you guessed) then it's possibly in very poor shape- nutritionally speaking. As in starving...so I've been trying to tell you that your snake needs you to get this right, or it might not make it. OK? This snake might just need proper feeding, but it also might be sick. Getting the feeding right will help diagnose the issue.
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    Re: snake finally coming out

    so i got her out of her hide and got a good measurement on her she is defiantly around 35"

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    Re: snake finally coming out

    so when should i try feeding her again and you are saying to get a fuzzy mouse
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    Re: snake finally coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberrus View Post
    so when should i try feeding her again and you are saying to get a hopper mouse
    Actually I didn't say "get a hopper mouse"- a small hopper mouse is the largest furred ("black & white") rodent that your snake, at 15" in length, should be offered, but even that's too big right now. (btw, a hopper mouse is a weaned mouse, not a rat)

    AND NOT NEXT FEEDING- get her a fuzzy mouse (eyes closed, not weaned yet) if she'll eat mice? OR a rat pinkie (naked, eyes closed) if she really has been fed rats, which I highly doubt- no offense.

    As I said before, she threw up her last meal- her stomach needs time to rest & regenerate (make more) digestive enzymes. Like when you're sick & have stomach flu, you don't start eating big meals right away, do you? (hoping not-) So she needs a much smaller meal that is EASY to digest in another week or so- see IF she keeps it down & digests it. What happens with the next feeding will tell us where you go from there. Got it? Her survival depends on what you do, how well you follow directions- I mean that sincerely.
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    Re: snake finally coming out

    okay i will get her a fuzzy but i also want you to understand that this is my first snake and you are very aggressive with how you type i get you care about the snake and so do i but the way you type makes me wanna just go to another forum. she trew up Saturday so i will try again on Sunday

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