Future pairings, thoughts and discussion. (everyone)

[Daniel_Effler]

I think a good blacklight may be a worthwhile purchase for that pair. It can at least maybe help you ID BEL and BEL pieds in a pinch I think.

The white on pieds will typically show up as a nice solid white under blacklight. BELs can have some residual patterning that shows up under it. So I would think a BEL showing up under blacklight with larger patches of solid white would be the BEL pied. An old post floating around here said a pied BEL had an interesting side pattern on the body, but there really isn't any info to go on for it aside from test breeding later on.

Like Nikkubus said, some you can't fully ID, because another thing to keep in mind is that Black pastel, Cinny and Pieds can sometimes lead to an all white hatchling as well.

I have a blacklight but it's just a bulb from Walmart and it is not the best. I will buy one of those black light flashlights that you can but to look for scorpions. That will help a lot.

Yes I did not think it all the way though but with this at least I should be able to pick out pieds. Thanks.

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I also kinda wish I had got a better breeder clown male. I got a single gene clown male. I could have got a lot more profit out of a 3-4 gene male and single gene female instead of the other way around.

Sice it will be a while anyway (hatchling) do you all think I should sale the clown male and upgrade to a multiple gene clown male now or just play it out with what I have?

What I have intended to pair with him is a leopard het clown female and a firefly het clown female.

I do have a few other females also but none that are het clown or visual.

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[nikkubus]

I also kinda wish I had got a better breeder clown male. I got a single gene clown male. I could have got a lot more profit out of a 3-4 gene male and single gene female instead of the other way around.

Sice it will be a while anyway (hatchling) do you all think I should sale the clown male and upgrade to a multiple gene clown male now or just play it out with what I have?

What I have intended to pair with him is a leopard het clown female and a firefly het clown female.

I do have a few other females also but none that are het clown or visual.

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It just really depends on what kind of projects you are shooting for. If it were me, I'd probably pair him with those two hets and try to get a nice holdback male before I sold him rather than just buying one outright unless he is still pretty small and nowhere near breeding size anyways. I feel like after taking the time to grow him, might as well see if you can hit a Leopard Clown or Firefly Clown male.

[Albert Clark]

I would keep the single gene male clown because he will be able to breed in probably less than a year. There have been anecdotal reports of male balls breeding at early ages and surprisingly lower weights. Some that may not necessarily being seen to be producing sperm plugs. Most have gone on to successfully sire clutches. Any clown is a worthy keeper to me. Consider putting him( once he has a reasonable weight and size) to all your intended females. I’m actively putting my 10 month old red stripe yellow belly 66% Het clown male to a unproven first time coral glow female possible Het clown. There have been a couple of locks over the past weeks.

[Daniel_Effler]

I would keep the single gene male clown because he will be able to breed in probably less than a year. There have been anecdotal reports of male balls breeding at early ages and surprisingly lower weights. Some that may not necessarily being seen to be producing sperm plugs. Most have gone on to successfully sire clutches. Any clown is a worthy keeper to me. Consider putting him( once he has a reasonable weight and size) to all your intended females. I’m actively putting my 10 month old red stripe yellow belly 66% Het clown male to a unproven first time coral glow female possible Het clown. There have been a couple of locks over the past weeks.

Awesome! Good luck with that pairing. I bet you will make some awesome babies there. I love the look of a banana clown.

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[Albert Clark]

Awesome! Good luck with that pairing. I bet you will make some awesome babies there. I love the look of a banana clown.

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Thank you D! I’m excited about the possibilities. Just wish she was 66% or 100% het. Only one way to find out if she proves out as a sole possible. Lol. Good luck with your projects.

[Albert Clark]

Awesome! Good luck with that pairing. I bet you will make some awesome babies there. I love the look of a banana clown.

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Hey D, don’t sleep on the young males you have. Also, their ability to sire clutches at lower weights and younger ages.