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    Re: pvc heating issues (again)

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicey View Post
    We use one of those for our rabbit. It doesn't get very hot at all but works to keep her warm when it gets frosty out. I second this suggestion.
    So in a snake enclosure, it might well be the perfect amount of warmth where it's needed- instead of trying to push heat in from "outside" & underneath a thick cage bottom with typical UTH.
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    Good, let us know how that goes? I hope it solves your problem.

    The hard plastic ones I had (many years back) were made by "Lectro-Kennel" brand. I only looked @ Chewy, but there may also be other brands thru other sources on Amazon, Petco, etc. Always nice to have options.

    The one issue you might have is accommodating the cable- it's not a simple lamp cord that can be cut off & the plug easily replaced (to pass the cord thru a small hole), so you'll have to plan to make a bigger hole in the PVC & then patch it. Oh well...nothing's perfect.
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    It works fine on my thick AP cage. Just a thin UTH gives all the heat I need. It is completely outside the enclosure and I didn't have to drill a hole and figure out how to run the power cord through the wall.

    I know the heating pad being suggested but do not know of one with a detachable cord. So you will either need to make a large hole for the plug to pass through or cut the cord and redo the plug to keep the hole small.

    If you have vents you may be able to remove one and run the cord through the edge but that will depend on where they are and how they are attached. It seems like a good bit of work when you could simply put a UTH under it and be done.

    This is the one I am running under that cage. It is super thin so it gives no rise. I just have the plastic connection sitting right up against the back of the cage so that it is not under any pressure.

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    Re: pvc heating issues (again)

    Quote Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    It works fine on my thick AP cage. Just a thin UTH gives all the heat I need. It is completely outside the enclosure and I didn't have to drill a hole and figure out how to run the power cord through the wall.

    I know the heating pad being suggested but do not know of one with a detachable cord. So you will either need to make a large hole for the plug to pass through or cut the cord and redo the plug to keep the hole small.

    If you have vents you may be able to remove one and run the cord through the edge but that will depend on where they are and how they are attached. It seems like a good bit of work when you could simply put a UTH under it and be done.

    This is the one I am running under that cage. It is super thin so it gives no rise. I just have the plastic connection sitting right up against the back of the cage so that it is not under any pressure.

    https://www.amazon.com/Flukers-29052.../dp/B00164K2H0
    you guys are awesome; thanks so much for all the suggestions!

    i have his old UTH from his previous enclosure which is the zoomed medium for 30-40 gallons. that’s gonna be my first try (to save money lol)!
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    By all means, try it- test it- it may work okay, but if not, you have some options. That's one thing I've always liked about keeping snakes- that it inspires some creativity, to get it right for each of our scaly buddies.
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    A UTH will work through a thick floor, it just needs time to heat up. I have them under 1/2" melamine enclosures and they are fine. One benefit is that once the floor comes up to the required temperature it tends to stay at a constant temperature and not swing, because of the floor's thermal mass.

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    ok so while he was out of the enclosure i experimented by plugging the RHP in with no thermostat.

    it certainly has the capability to reach proper temps. but without the thermostat it was Way too hot (over 100). so that means it’s my thermostat that is the problem. i use the zilla one found in most stores; it worked perfect for his previous enclosure and i have another on my hognose’s 10 gallon (he’s a baby).

    so i ask now..

    does the thermostat just not have the power to properly heat it?
    if that’s not the issue, any idea why the thermostat isn’t powering it right?
    what thermostats do you recommend i try instead (please keep budget in mind..)

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    Re: pvc heating issues (again)

    Quote Originally Posted by goatasaurus View Post
    ok so while he was out of the enclosure i experimented by plugging the RHP in with no thermostat.

    it certainly has the capability to reach proper temps. but without the thermostat it was Way too hot (over 100). so that means it’s my thermostat that is the problem. i use the zilla one found in most stores; it worked perfect for his previous enclosure and i have another on my hognose’s 10 gallon (he’s a baby).

    so i ask now..

    does the thermostat just not have the power to properly heat it?
    if that’s not the issue, any idea why the thermostat isn’t powering it right?
    what thermostats do you recommend i try instead (please keep budget in mind..)
    Where is the thermostat probe?

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    Re: pvc heating issues (again)

    Quote Originally Posted by goatasaurus View Post
    i built an awesome 4x2x2 pvc enclosure for my boy and Nothing i do seems to be making it reach temp at the floor of the enclosure where little man is.
    I think your problem is that 2 feet is too far for a RHP to reach. You could build a basking platform to get your snake closer to the RHP (see Reptile Basics VE Radiant Heat Panel FAQ).

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    Re: pvc heating issues (again)

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    Where is the thermostat probe?
    just outside his hide at the floor of the enclosure. since that’s where he hangs out i figured it needed to be there.

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