Stop pushing!!

[Team Slytherin]

Thanks. I appreciate the confidence boost. I just know others probably have more experience with snakes so I just feel like I don't fully have the experience to say much lol.

I know this might not be ideal but is there a way you could maybe take him outside even if it's to a nearby park or something. Maybe that could get his energy out. Although the outside world is definitely difficult with any snake like alone a big one so this might not be possible.

Um... Maybe get a ladder that matches your deco and have that for him to climb on. Just take out or open when in use type thing?

And I wonder if he just needs to keep doing the water bowl burrowing until he realizes that's not getting him anywhere or maybe moving the water bowl would help. I'm not sure how arboreal snakes work in that department.

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I’ve been considering ways to take him outside for adventures. We did it when he was young, but it’s much more difficult now. If he grows much more, he will end up being a mandatory 2-person handle and I hope that doesn’t happen. Only time will tell; we don’t really know enough about the species yet to predict. He has already far outgrown the size at which they are believed to “max out.” He’s been handled much less the last couple years because I had a BRUTAL surgery and was just not able to handle him safely without injuring myself - and he is very aware of my limitations in this respect! He knows I am still not able to hold my arms up over my head for more than 3 seconds at a time, so when he wants to be out but avoid me, he will curl up on a curtain rod above the window and just turn his face away from me🤣 I think it would be useful to purchase one of those collapsable mesh “play pens” for dogs. It would make transport easier to outdoor spots and also give me the option to safely and comfortably confine him if he gets too rowdy.

I guess that is an important thing to reiterate🤣 He is not at all like a boa, especially a large one. Apophis is not just active, he is CRAZY smart, ultra athletic, and does NOT understand his strength. I’m sure most arboreal snakes are extra grabby, but scrubs have a tendency to hold on to an object (or human) MUCH harder than is necessary. He’s a sweet, sweet good boy, but I have no doubt he could easily kill a grown man and not even realize. The point of mentioning it, I suppose, is that I just don’t see something like a jungle gym being enough to keep him interested. My Dumeril’s can be swaddled in a blanket and put on the couch to watch documentaries without moving a muscle. But watching him outside of the cage is a full time job! And getting him to do something/go somewhere he doesn’t want to? Good luck!! I am currently laying groundwork to begin target training him for this exact reason!