@303_enfield Thanks! I have a VE-6 rack with opaque tubs. She also has a dark hide box within the tub. I use the tap method with a snake hook for all my snakes, but she is really tough to get out of that mode. Even while handling, she can stay defensive and will give me all the signals that she will strike, so I position her face away from myself. I'm going to keep trying to handle her gently and hope she learns not to fear me.