Right, that is why I sort of am Leary about shipping to be from a website. I would like to check it out in person. When she is rolled up she is probably the size of my fist right now. So if I cought in person I could at least compare to my hand. Just that sometimes now, with online stuff they only carry it online. So that kinda is annoying. I'll get her something eventually. I am going to get something different for the male too. Even though he isn't posing any problems with us. He may want to feel cozy as well.