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    Re: Live feeding: in-tank or separate tub?

    Quote Originally Posted by nikkubus View Post
    I don't feed live anymore for a number of reasons but I'm not going to try and change your mind. It's your choice. I used to do it simply because back then I didn't know f/t even existed and at the time I wasn't comfortable with killing the rat myself for pre-killed. I think removing the animal from their enclosure is a lot more disruptive than removing some items, but I still think removing the items is probably pretty disruptive, especially if you say you are trying to give "enrichment" through the hunting process. I understand wanting to be able to observe and make sure the rat isn't attacking him, so I think the solution might be to change what you have in the enclosure so it's still cluttered and feels like it has "hiding spots" to her, but you can still see what's going on. This is not really an option if you want things looking really naturalistic, but you could use translucent plastic hides that give them the cozy feeling of a burrow and block some light, but you can still view, and then whatever else like plants and things are in there aren't so cluttered that you have huge blind spots.

    If you change your mind about live feeding, here is my method to thawing that makes things really easy (I have a lot of snakes to feed, especially when I've got a bunch of hatchlings, and I don't have time to waste):
    -One or two days before feeding depending on the size of rodent I take the prey items I will be feeding out of the freezer and put them in the fridge, so I don't have to mess around swapping water over and over to keep it thawing safely.
    -About 15-20 mins before feeding I put the prey (still in a ziplock) in a large pot of hot water and set myself a timer on my phone and go do something else while I wait.
    -Timer goes off, I feed the snake, and unless it's a hatchling or snake I'm trying to switch to a different food, I just offer the item and it's usually struck immediately. If not, I set it on a hide and close the enclosure up and go about whatever I need to do and check back an hour later or so and grab it out to throw away if it didn't get eaten.
    To me this process is a heck of a lot easier than dealing with live rodents, which I still do from time to time for stubborn hatchlings.
    If I don’t have success with this next live feed I will certainly try this method instead. When she is being a good eater live feeding is pretty easy because I just dump the rat in straight from the box and she will strike within a couple minutes so the process is super quick and I don’t have to touch a rat. And I’ll prolly get some hate for sympathizing with rats on a reptile forum but I am an animal lover and for whatever reason having my snake do the deed of killing the rat feels much more humane to me that pre-killing a rat or having to manhandle a rats corpse. However I’m super sick of figuring out what to do with the rats she refuses considering she is my one and only snake so I don’t have anyone else to feed them to. Also, I appreciate the advice on decluttering a bit but I am too attached to having her cage look pretty �� I can watch through the mesh top and will probably just block the entrances to her hides only for the duration of the feed and maybe just take out only her vine of fake plants, hopefully that won’t stress her out too much.
    Last edited by kalismami; 02-09-2021 at 12:48 AM.

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