Since they are hard to come by I would have been happy with anything from the genus, but I managed to find the exact sub species I was hoping for. I got them from an old Brit that likes European colubrids but isn't tech savvy, no company name, fb page or website. A group of 80ish were imported 9 years ago and he got 12 of them. These are uscbb and eating unscented chopped pinkies.