I ordered a 38" and an 18" stainless steel hook from reptile basics yesterday. The 38" for when the bredls (and whatever else I decide to get later on) are adults and in 4x2s. And the 18" for opening tubs now and to start training my little woma with. She can be a bit nippy! When they arrive and I use them a few times I'll update everyone on the quality and ease of use. Thanks everyone!