Ball python spazzing out during the day

[Bogertophis]

I have to disagree with u a little, I don’t like the idea of a snake room. And maybe u might not know what this snake room is. I don’t mind a room just to house your snake enclosures in and u keep other pets out. But this was a room for him to hang out in sometimes for hours and it’s not good to leave any snake unattended ever, nor should they have more than one enclosure. The op is stepping in the right direction and hopefully keeps going that way, Crowley will be happy for every step that’s in his best interest

Hate to tell you this, but there's more than one way to enjoy our snakes. I no longer have a spare room to do this with, but I used to do something similar with some of my snakes (that were big enough they couldn't get into trouble, not with a hatchling Cal. king I had at the time, for example). I didn't go to the elaborate extent that Valyndris does with things to climb on, or "hides" specifically for the snakes, but I used to let a snake roam a safe room for a hour to several to get some exercise, often while I was in another room (door closed, obviously). These were not ball pythons...I didn't have BPs then (they came later), but the snakes I did this with seemed to enjoy their outings.

And I still have a real tree (a branchy part of one anyway) that I have a metal base for that my rat snakes like to climb in for a while -with supervision of course, since they can easily shimmy right down to the floor.

So you "don't like the idea of a snake room"? Fine, don't do that. But stop berating someone for not doing everything exactly as you do...let's try to have an open mind, eh?

Especially when there is no real reason to say it's wrong, other than you wanting to blame the snake's fast & current discomfort on that. One of the problems with many pet snakes these days is that they live out their lives in utter boredom in storage containers & get fat laying around. I don't happen to agree with what some of you all do either, but I don't disrespect you. We are mostly adults here & we should be able to discuss different methods without insults & ganging up on anyone who doesn't conform totally to the "herd" here. It's also NOT a crime to be anthropomorphic about one's pets... Let's focus on what actually does need improvement (like the snake not being near the bird) & not pick apart the other harmless choices that this or any other owner may make, just because it's not how YOU do things.

If there's one way to kill a forum, it's having everyone gang up on any keeper who dares defy the "prevailing opinion"...pretty soon, no one dares express their own opinion or share something that might even be BETTER than what you do...and pretty soon, there's no reason for anyone to join, since nothing ever changes...no mistakes but no growth either. We've all heard these complaints about Facebook groups (& many have experienced them personally), let's not turn into that here. Please...?