Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
Could be lingering fear...who knows??? It's just one possibility, & trying keeping him in "his own room" may give you a better answer than we can.

Did you say he hasn't been eating now too? Since when was his last meal taken? (probably means nothing...winter's coming & he's a BP...it's what they do, but still?)
He hasn't eaten since July 17th, I think this was due to me getting an AC unit and it got cold the one day so I assumed he started his winter fast early. He's been in his room since about 2:30pm, went in his hide and slept. I was checking often and when I checked on him at 5pm he had spazzed that hide around (not the plastic one with the bed) It's a brown one with no bed in it. I had to go do groceries and I'm now back and his hide is in the middle of his enclosure instead of the side and his head and tail are sticking out by like 6 inches each. He seems to be resting like that at the moment.

Quote Originally Posted by Craiga 01453 View Post
I'm just gonna throw this out there...

OP, you clearly care very deeply for your snake, and I appreciate and respect that.

However, your methods are extremely unconventional and your experience is limited to a few years with one animal.

Maybe it's time to try keeping him in the more "standard" way that's advised by experienced keepers.

Snakes are not social animals. And I don't mean this as an insult, but you anthropomorphise with the best of them. You love your snake, that's obvious. But I think you often forget the most important thing...he's a snake.

Snakes don't look forward to time outside the enclosure the way you feel Crowley does. They aren't animals that enjoy roaming and cruising all day...that's why BPs aren't photographed and observed just cruising around in nature. They are secretive, solitary and nocturnal.
Your routine of having him out for hours all day is not allowing him to just...be a snake.

And the bird, I'm sorry but that can't possibly be helping the situation. Snakes and other pets don't mix, period. Especially when one is a perfect predator to the other.

So what I'm getting at is, there's a reason us experienced keepers keep our animals the way we do and advise others to do so. It works.

We have years of experience and thousands of animals to have learned from.
And unfortunately, your inexperience shows in how often you anthropomorphize. Snakes are very good at hiding stress and illness. So you may have mistaken signs of stress for signs of affection. You may simply not know what you're looking for. And that's ok because you only have one animal, so what you see may appear "normal", while we may have recognized it as stress.

Sometimes all they need is to be left alone...to be a snake. Even you constantly hovering over the enclosure with a camera and fixing his hide and moving him into his hide...all equal stress.

I'm just being honest here...it may be time to realize that snakes are not social animals and will not thrive when being treated as one. You clearly want more interaction with your pet than your pet is equipped to provide. It might be time to give Crowley a break and let him be a snake.
It may be my inexperience but I only mostly just take Crowley out when he wants to, I even let him come out himself and put him in his room where he has places to hide and places to explore, he explores then hides, once he has some time in his hide I bring him to the couch to watch a show, most of the time when I put him back he is riding the glass of the enclosure like he wants back out whereas he's nice and calm in his room or on the couch with me. The carpet I know isn't the best method but it's what I've always used and it's worked till this occurrence today.

I've tried leaving him alone today and when I saw him struggle of course I tried to help, the camera was to show what he was doing to help diagnose what's happening with him, I tried not to hover too much. As for the bird, I wasn't expecting to get him for many years but my mother could no longer care for him and I took him in. Having Crowley and the parrot together was something I wasn't sure was going to work but I wanted to try it before I just shoved Crowley in a room. Like I've mentioned I will move Crowley to his room is he continues the spazzing tomorrow or if it was just a today thing.

I appreciate hearing your opinion about this as I do feel like a mommy to my snake and I could be anthropomorphizing it without realizing because of the love I have for him. I just have never seen signs of stress in my experience, it always seemed like Crowley was happy with how I was taking care of him and he eats regularly when he isn't doing his winter fast.

As for the other recent replies, the brown thing in the hide is a bed, he won't go in the hide without the bed as the entrance is too big and he doesn't like it. I can try switching to the brown hide I have, to see if that helps but he has spazzed in both of them. For tomorrow I have a plexi glass in front of Crowley's enclosure that I will block his vision from the bird with some towels on it.

So my plans are, put him back in his enclosure with everything the same except for the hidden vision to the bird tonight. If he spazzes I will move him as soon as possible to his room. If the spazzing continues, I can switch hides around, if that doesn't work I will go to the vet on the weekend as my parents are going that way anyway so I'd get a ride from them (I don't trust my vehicle to make it that far, it's near the end of its life).

Quote Originally Posted by 303_enfield View Post
The above. I had to watch the vid many times slow to figure what the heck it was. It looks like a dog bed for a chihuahua. Crowley goes into the dark an something furry bigger then him is in there, fight or flight. An the bird, cover that end of the cage at the minimum. The carpet gives off gas stop using it. Paper towels work fine.

You keep stating his room. Do you use two cages for him? If so please stop, as soon as Crowley gets settled in it's change 1,001. Again, the bird is not helping.

Now, what does Crowley weigh an any other snakes in the house? How cold is it in Canada now?
He has 2 enclosures, his main one and one in his room. He always sleeps in the main one and rests in the one in the room after he does his roam around. I got him to sleep in the one in his room today as he was spazzing in the main one. Crowley is 6 years old, he's 4'4" long and weighs 4.6 lbs (2087 grams). It gets to 40-60 degrees outside during the day and usually drops to around 20 at night. The house always stays at about 76 degrees. There are no other snakes or reptiles in the house, the only other pet is the parrot.