The hanging cage was ajust an idea and like rabbits they would have wooden boards to prevent foot problems and nesting boxes. The 6$ pine shaving bail from tractor supply store will this work i seen alot of about pine shaving causing health issues? As far as the goat barn i have the barn separated my herd cant reach the food storage side which is where i had planned on installing my rack so it wont be damaged by the goats and the barn isnt opened to animals and i dont have any wild rodent problems as i actually hate wild rodents and keep an mouser cat for just that reason. I would just buy frozen but most of the places i found online are out of stock or 29$ shipping which would just be left on my door until i get home, plus only one of my pythons eats frozen at the moment so i do need live and the local store is 5$ each. Breeding my own just seems like the easiest choice as i can freeze the extra and i will need live pups to feed any hatchlings in the future so just the logically choice as my local store only adult rats not pups. Thanks for the input i will most likely be moving the rat rack into the garage in the winter an depending on the smell they may end up staying there i just know the ones i get from the local store are reek but that may be simply the way they keep them.