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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

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    Why bother is my question? A simple tub in the warmest part of the house would be 100X easier for a first setup. It's a hassle to keep them in an aquarium, hence all this stuff that you are buying then going to retire quickly down the line and upgrade to what you actually need and want anyways so why not just save, buy quality equipment and caging straight off the bat? I've played the buy cheap and upgrade later game, with snakes, with fish, etc and it's not the smart way to go. Especially with your house so cold, it's going to be a battle between heat and humidity. Don't go cheap is my advice, it's only going to cost more in the end. Buy a herpstat, buy a quality cage, the upfront cost is more but the payoff is worth it long term in health and ease of care. You don't have the snake yet so no rush. Do it right. On/off thermostats aren't the best for heating either, I prefer a proportional one that keeps temps steady regulating output instead of 100% on or 100% off which fluctuates your temps.
    i can respect ur opinion but as I stated in my op I’ll be going to a t10 enclosure and some super high quality equipment in about a year. This is just an initial setup, many people have ran glass enclosures successfully with sub par equipment than I am using and have grown beautiful healthy snakes. Sometimes simplicity is a better route in the path to perfection. But just like anywhere else opinions fly loose and what may work for one is not as good for another. Thanks for your opinion...

    and just for for the record my house runs at approx 72-73 degrees verified it last night
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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Craiga 01453 View Post
    I mix the ratio up a bit depending on the season and how much humidity retention I need. But I think 70/30 is a perfect starting point.

    ....and I told you that you'd run into glass bashers!!! Hahaha. But seriously, glass works just fine. I've been using it for almost 20 years, and millions of snake keepers do as well.

    I'm just getting home, let me get those pics for you in a few...
    I figured that was about the right mix, and you were right about glass “bashers” but it doesn’t bother me because I know my snake will be happy n healthy in his “glass enclosure”. I’m just glad there are people who really want to help, not just discourage.

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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Craiga 01453 View Post
    Here's the pics. The quality isn't great and my glass shows water spots with my camera flash on. But you get the idea.

    Let me know if you have any questions.

    Also, my house temps are pretty similar to yours, so I really don't think there's a need for a second UTH.
    But, this is a great learning opportunity. This is why setting everything up before bringing the animal home is so important.

    Keep up the good work!!



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    I see what ur talking about now with the insulation, great idea I’m gonna do that! Maybe get some that’s black to help w heat retention as well, is that 1/2 inch thick? Would 1/4 work?. Just out of curiosity what thermometer and hydrometer u using? I see the heat gun as I have one as well but I have been hesitant to pull the trigger on thermo-hydro meters because they all pretty much look cheap. Could u post a link to the ones u have? Btw sweet tank! Looks os so familiar😎😎🤪 I can see him under that water dish🐍

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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

    Quote Originally Posted by SubieRoadKill View Post
    I see what ur talking about now with the insulation, great idea I’m gonna do that! Maybe get some that’s black to help w heat retention as well, is that 1/2 inch thick? Would 1/4 work?. Just out of curiosity what thermometer and hydrometer u using? I see the heat gun as I have one as well but I have been hesitant to pull the trigger on thermo-hydro meters because they all pretty much look cheap. Could u post a link to the ones u have? Btw sweet tank! Looks os so familiar😎😎🤪 I can see him under that water dish🐍

    Yeah, it's simple to do. And sooooo worth the $15. This is the product I use. You can definitely use 1/4", it'll just have a lower R-rating. But whichever works for you in your situation will be fine.

    As for thermometer/hygrometers I use Accurite brand. Many of the forum members do. They're reliable and don't break the bank. I have 2 in every enclosure. I've linked the model in the pic, but they have tons to choose from. I've picked up a few of their others that are basically the same but a different display.


    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Super-TU...8413/100322369


    https://www.amazon.com/AcuRite-Humid.../dp/B0013BKDO8

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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

    I did the same type of thing with the insulation. For the sides and back I took cardboard and spray painted it and let it air dry then taped it between the cardboard and glass just to make it more aesthetically appealing.




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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

    Quote Originally Posted by SubieRoadKill View Post
    ‘Would a 100 watt infrared bulb work or would I need a higher wattage bulb ?
    I’m currently using Zoo Med infrared 75 watt spot type bulbs on my 20 gallon long tanks. And have to turn the bulb dimmer almost all the way down as far as it will go in the summer months. So I’d give the 100watt a try. Petco and Petsmart will usually let you return it if you but the wrong size as long as you ask the manager in advance in my personal experience. Best of luck.
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    This time of year I run 75W bulbs. As the winter rolls in I have to switch to 100W

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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

    Are 2 water bowls common place in a glass enclosure?

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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

    Quote Originally Posted by SubieRoadKill View Post
    Are 2 water bowls common place in a glass enclosure?
    Nah, you really only need one.


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    Re: 40 gallon breeder tank 4 ball python setup

    Quote Originally Posted by SubieRoadKill View Post
    Are 2 water bowls common place in a glass enclosure?
    I use two just because it helps with humidity. One is much more common, but this helps a ton with humidity.

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