Yeah, I can understand that. It just came across a bit over the top to say it's a lie in the first one I put of the 2 examples there. Wasn't sure if the way I'd described originally just got misunderstood and came across wrong or if just leaving the what was thawing more vague for brevity sake in solving the resulting issue was what you thought was being dishonest. Glad we got the confusion cleared up.
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