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Ugh...I give up.
I give up, lol. My ball is going through a shed. The first shed was pretty bad. Everything fell in pieces. Had a lot of stuck shed. But eventually it all came off with a little bath. Second shed was a whole lot better. Almost a full shed. I picked up ther humidity a bit. So right now he's in shed. I caught it early so I made him a homemade humid box. Well... it's not showing any interest, lol. I placed him inside when i introduced it. He rolled around inside for a few seconds, found the exit and went right into his warm hide. I tried 3 times and it just leaves. I give up! 😂
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Re: Ugh...I give up.
Do you have him in a glass tank with screen top? If so, I would recommend getting a cardboard box and covering 80% of the top and leave 20% uncovered over the cold end.
Get sphagnum moss, get it wet, squeeze it and then place it around the water dish and the hide he spends most of his time in.
Most the top of the hide at the warm end. If you’re using a bulb as a source of heat... get rid of the that.
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Re: Ugh...I give up.
 Originally Posted by ShawarmaPoutine
Do you have him in a glass tank with screen top? If so, I would recommend getting a cardboard box and covering 80% of the top and leave 20% uncovered over the cold end.
Get sphagnum moss, get it wet, squeeze it and then place it around the water dish and the hide he spends most of his time in.
Most the top of the hide at the warm end. If you’re using a bulb as a source of heat... get rid of the that.
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Yes it's a glass tank for display. The top is covered about...I would say 90%. I did use moss inside the humid box but not in the hide or anywhere else. Didn't think of that. I was just hoping he would get it and go inside the humid box and stay there. I guess he'll have to figure that one out on himself. Im going to add moss to his warm hide
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You still need a heat source for ambient air temp. The uth does not provide any increase in ambient air. Take a piece of cardboard the size of the screen lid. Trace the lamp fixture and cut out about 1/4 in outside of that circle. Cover the entire thing with foil. I only have to mist once a week with this method and I have three glass tanks. I have a tutorial for this as well.
Unless your house temp is at 80 all the time or you use a rack system you need an additional heat source such as a lamp. I use a Che.
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Re: Ugh...I give up.
Also, warmer air has a higher water capacity than colder air and will help keeping humidity up.
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Re: Ugh...I give up.
 Originally Posted by ShawarmaPoutine
Also, warmer air has a higher water capacity than colder air and will help keeping humidity up.
Actually this is incorrect. Since warmer air has a higher capacity to hold water, the warmer it is the lower the humidity for the same amount of water in the air. This is why it's so hard maintaining humidity in a tank; the warm air carries the humidity up out of the tank with it.
Think of air as if it's a bucket, and the warmer the air the bigger the bucket. Take a small bucket (low temperature air) and fill it up to the top, and you have 100% humidity. Pour all of the water into a bucket that can hold twice as much (your high temperature air) and the relative humidity drops to 50% because the bucket is half full.
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Re: Ugh...I give up.
 Originally Posted by bcr229
Actually this is incorrect. Since warmer air has a higher capacity to hold water, the warmer it is the lower the humidity for the same amount of water in the air. This is why it's so hard maintaining humidity in a tank; the warm air carries the humidity up out of the tank with it.
Think of air as if it's a bucket, and the warmer the air the bigger the bucket. Take a small bucket (low temperature air) and fill it up to the top, and you have 100% humidity. Pour all of the water into a bucket that can hold twice as much (your high temperature air) and the relative humidity drops to 50% because the bucket is half full.
That is a great, simple explanation BCR!
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Re: Ugh...I give up.
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That is a great, simple explanation BCR!
Thank you! I can't take credit for it though.
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Re: Ugh...I give up.
Interesting! So 70% humidity at 20 celsius feels the same as 70% at 30 celsius although the amount of water in the air at 30 celsius is far greater than at 20 celsius?
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Re: Ugh...I give up.
 Originally Posted by bcr229
Actually this is incorrect. Since warmer air has a higher capacity to hold water, the warmer it is the lower the humidity for the same amount of water in the air. This is why it's so hard maintaining humidity in a tank; the warm air carries the humidity up out of the tank with it.
Think of air as if it's a bucket, and the warmer the air the bigger the bucket. Take a small bucket (low temperature air) and fill it up to the top, and you have 100% humidity. Pour all of the water into a bucket that can hold twice as much (your high temperature air) and the relative humidity drops to 50% because the bucket is half full.
Spot on. Nice correction.
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 Originally Posted by ShawarmaPoutine
Interesting! So 70% humidity at 20 celsius feels the same as 70% at 30 celsius although the amount of water in the air at 30 celsius is far greater than at 20 celsius?
70% humidity is 70% humidity regardless of temp
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