Funny you mention him, he’s the one who really got me excited about this! Love what the spotnose and leopard do to the clown gene, and the clown gene in general. I was going to go that route but then I discovered what DG does to clown and now I really want to find a way to make that work. However I’m realizing the morphs I’m really excited about are very expensive especially anything with both clown&dg. I’d like to get a pair where I can work in this direction but still doing some exploring before I dive in. Thanks for the input! Also happy to hear any thoughts on other good pairings with clown or DG as well!