Feeling Disssresspected.

[JodanOrNoDan]

I've used that same pad on her since I've had the tank, it's a very low heat output, like absolute bare minimum, she doesnt have any burns on her sides or belly at all.

You are not going to get any support from people here with this line of thought. They have seen too many instances of badly burned animals. Heat pads fail. When they do they can burn a snake to the point of 100's of dollars in vet bills if not death. Ball pythons are stupid when it comes to heat. They do not act like a lizard who will move off of something that is too hot. If only cold options are available, they will cook themselves rather than be cold.

You can listen or not, but you are basically disagreeing with people who do know. Kind of like telling your mechanic how to fix your car when you don't even know how to change a tire.

[pretends2bnormal]

You are not going to get any support from people here with this line of thought. They have seen too many instances of badly burned animals. Heat pads fail. When they do they can burn a snake to the point of 100's of dollars in vet bills if not death. Ball pythons are stupid when it comes to heat. They do not act like a lizard who will move off of something that is too hot. If only cold options are available, they will cook themselves rather than be cold.

You can listen or not, but you are basically disagreeing with people who do know. Kind of like telling your mechanic how to fix your car when you don't even know how to change a tire.

When I get off work, I think I'm going to make us a resource to link people to...

Grab all of my not in use heat mats/heat tape, plug them into a surge protector without any regulator, and video with a clock visible turning them on, then 5 minutes later reading surface temps with a temp gun. Maybe do a 2nd round where I stick them under piece of glass and read that surface... I've done it before for my own curiosity and the temps get absurdly high.

I have one of the zoomed 6"×8" mats, "40 gal" zoomed mat, and at least 1 ultratherm, plus a piece of 6" heat tape I can test.

Maybe seeing actual proof like that would help convince folks that we aren't saying this just because we want them to waste money on equipment that isn't actually needed.

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When I get off work, I think I'm going to make us a resource to link people to...

Grab all of my not in use heat mats/heat tape, plug them into a surge protector without any regulator, and video with a clock visible turning them on, then 5 minutes later reading surface temps with a temp gun. Maybe do a 2nd round where I stick them under piece of glass and read that surface... I've done it before for my own curiosity and the temps get absurdly high.

I have one of the zoomed 6"×8" mats, "40 gal" zoomed mat, and at least 1 ultratherm, plus a piece of 6" heat tape I can test.

Maybe seeing actual proof like that would help convince folks that we aren't saying this just because we want them to waste money on equipment that isn't actually needed.

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i did this for myself to see how high they went. It got to 120 really quick. I was just curious and i already had a thermostat.

[pretends2bnormal]

i did this for myself to see how high they went. It got to 120 really quick. I was just curious and i already had a thermostat.

Yep. One of mine I think hit 140+F directly on the surface of it. I forget which one that was, but I'm sure I'll find out. I say it is prfectly fine to try it out as an experiment when not exposing an animal to it. It is truly amazing how hot things can get using high resistances & electricity

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