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    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad37 View Post
    She looks like a Panamanian dwarf boa to me but once again I'm no expert so if someone else is more knowledgeable of dwarf locales please correct me. There's no way of actually without knowing what her parents were or doing scale counts. Either way she is a very beautiful boa!
    Scale counts? Please tell me more.

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    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?

    I'm not sure the exact science on it since I've never done it. I'm sure a quick Google search on it will explain it way better than I could but the way I understand it every species and localities have a specific number of scales from snout to vent. Counting scales seems like a daunting task to me which is why I've never done it lol. But you take a complete shed and count rows of scales. I also think most locales have a certain number of saddles compared to others.

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    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toad37 View Post
    Usually true dwarfs are only hypo, anery, or maybe albino. If she has anything else I'm pretty sure she's been cross bread. I'm no expert but that's what I've read in Vin Russo's book but show us a picture I'd love to see her!
    Only the hogg island is more hypo but Most of the true dwarfs like Mexican tarahumara, sonoran and crawl cay are mostly normal looking boas, but Even my Nicaraguan and my red bellied corn Island boas both are under 5ft and over 4 yrs old
    Even most of leopards(from Sonoran boas) and blood boas are under 5ft

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    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?

    Quote Originally Posted by richardhind1972 View Post
    Only the hogg island is more hypo but Most of the true dwarfs like Mexican tarahumara, sonoran and crawl cay are mostly normal looking boas, but Even my Nicaraguan and my red bellied corn Island boas both are under 5ft and over 4 yrs old
    Even most of leopards(from Sonoran boas) and blood boas are under 5ft

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    That's what I was thinking. I have a pair of crawl cays and they shouldn't get any bigger than 5ft for the female and maybe 4ft for the male. They're only 9 months old so we have a few years to go before they're full grown. Thanks for the input!

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    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?

    A lot of folks can give a educated guess on what your boa might be, but there's really no way to know for sure unless you speak to the breeder. She looks central-american-ish with the darker colors, but she could just be a dark columbian BI, or a mix of a couple different types.

    Read through some of these pages: https://web.archive.org/web/20080816....com/index.htm

    This guy used to be the best in the biz at locality morphs, and hand collected many of his own lines straight from the wild. He goes a bit into "counts" including scale counts and saddle counts. He observed that some boas have a specific number of saddles, some have a specific number of caudal scales, some you can tell a difference by the number of big scales on their heads. It's not an exact science, especially as a lot of boa are "mixed" - central american with columbian, etc.

    Side note: I do your girl's tail colors - they're dark, but I bet they shine deep ruby red in the sunlight.

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    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?

    Quote Originally Posted by ladywhipple02 View Post
    A lot of folks can give a educated guess on what your boa might be, but there's really no way to know for sure unless you speak to the breeder. She looks central-american-ish with the darker colors, but she could just be a dark columbian BI, or a mix of a couple different types.

    Read through some of these pages: https://web.archive.org/web/20080816....com/index.htm

    This guy used to be the best in the biz at locality morphs, and hand collected many of his own lines straight from the wild. He goes a bit into "counts" including scale counts and saddle counts. He observed that some boas have a specific number of saddles, some have a specific number of caudal scales, some you can tell a difference by the number of big scales on their heads. It's not an exact science, especially as a lot of boa are "mixed" - central american with columbian, etc.

    Side note: I do your girl's tail colors - they're dark, but I bet they shine deep ruby red in the sunlight.
    Thank you. Will read tonight when I am off work.

    Her tail is bright and deep red. Nice and dark. Love her belly freckling as well. She is amazing.

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