Avengers Endgame SPOILER Thread

[reptilemom25]

Maybe I should clarify this a bit. I thought the quote feature highlighted what I had my doubts about. The specific line was, "Yes, I WOULD definitely complain if they did that kind of crappy job on a scene of male characters charging in. There was no exposition."
I've heard things very similar to this over the years and it usually comes across as vapid and a way to end a conversation. I've become jaded to it. You're right, I don't know you as a person and you may find fault with a scene showing an all male crew charging in. For that I apologize.

It wasn't intended as a way to end a conversation, rather as response to your question and a way to move conversation past the "it would be ok if it was guys" idea, because it wouldn't. I honestly would have found fault with the scene no matter who the characters were because it left so many holes. Wasp was in the van and then suddenly made it all the way to the middle of the battle with no explanation. Several other characters were elsewhere as well and then showed up in a perfectly posed group for the "money shot". Lots of male dominated action movies use the same ploy and it bothers me there too. It's lazy movie making in my opinion, and the fact that they chose to be this lazy with a scene that they knew people would be scrutinizing says a lot about how little they cared about getting their representation of females correct. That bothers me, and I think accepting it as a valid way to do things means we will not move forward in the development of strong female characters who are not just there to satisfy the need for a "token" girl power scene. I think Captian Marvel did a lot, but this was a step backwards IMO.

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I think they cracked the door a bit with the alternate timeline he created when he left with the tesseract. That may be a later movie and/or spin-off of some sort in which there is a darker Loki only time line, or perhaps something the new Avengers have to fix.

Good point!