So my choices were a one or the other BTW. With a $1200 budget and each one as close to $1200 as possible and not sure how shipping would play out I have a back up. Want it narrowed down to just the absolute one, not possible. No way to say until the snake is bought. To many choices for someone that’s cheap with expensive taste given the opportunity to buy a snake 4x the cost of my most expensive one. the Black Tailed Cribo is the absolute top want at the moment.