new interest in snakes, trying to learn.

[Danger noodles]

I agree I see nothing good going on here, sorry to be blunt.

[smoothnobody]

Actually if you're just starting out and add all expenses including snake cost, feeding them, at best you break even with your expenses. It takes quite a few years (if you raise from hatchling) and a few years even more before you might earn extra on top of the total cost.

lets talk numbers. most of the balls i have seen are 300-600. lets call it $1000 for a pair. i've seen videos about complete terrariums for $100. this is assuming i want to do a terrarium and not a plastic tub. bags of 50 feeders are less than $50 and last 6 months so $100 a year. balls lay 4-6 eggs annually. i sell babies for $200-500. my breeders live 20-40 years. how is this a losing situation?

[smoothnobody]

That was not me. I just see your approach as fail. Best of luck.

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i've had like a dozen responses since i logged in this morning. i'm trying to respond to everything i think deserves a response. i copy pasted my response in the wrong quote brackets.

you guys turned on me pretty quick.

[dr del]

Sorry,

We tend to be a little gunshy about certain patterns we have seen in the past - it can lead to miss-hits if we get reminded of things we have seen lead south quickly.

The best adivce I can give you is go slow at the start and get the basics nailed with a few females you love the look of and then look afresh at breeding once you have the idea of whats involved pretty nailed down in your mind. At the end you will have females old enough and fit enough to breed without causing them problems and the males you want will probably have changed based on availability, personal taste and will, inevitably, have fallen in price.

Best of luck.


del

[Skyrivers]

i've had like a dozen responses since i logged in this morning. i'm trying to respond to everything i think deserves a response. i copy pasted my response in the wrong quote brackets.

you guys turned on me pretty quick.

We didn't turn on you. We all started to voice concern for the animals that might eventually be in your care. The answer is still the same. Get educated and go slow. An animal that lives 30 years is not a fad. It is a lifetime commitment. You jump to breeding from knowing zilch about snakes. We try to caution you about certain species.

End of the day is your dime. I am out of here.

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[Danger noodles]

lets talk numbers. most of the balls i have seen are 300-600. lets call it $1000 for a pair. i've seen videos about complete terrariums for $100. this is assuming i want to do a terrarium and not a plastic tub. bags of 50 feeders are less than $50 and last 6 months so $100 a year. balls lay 4-6 eggs annually. i sell babies for $200-500. my breeders live 20-40 years. how is this a losing situation?

If ur wanting to breed a few snakes and maybe sell them but mostly want to keep the cool ones, this is ok. If u want to make money then u need $1000-10,000 snakes that are powerhouses that will give u morphs that people want. If not u can spend 8-15 years making your own. And u need racks, heaters, of yeah maybe thousands in vet bills over the years.

What im saying is your not the first to say let’s breed and make money, these are not rabbits. They need special care and love

now I want to breed one day maybe, but I just bought a few pythons and am raising them for a few years and I already surprised myself on how much I don’t know. So I’m now to the point that I’ll just buy wat I enjoy and be happy with that

[MR Snakes]

This thread is evidence why the OP shouldn’t even think about breeding for a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time!!!


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[Danger noodles]

we didn't turn on you. We all started to voice concern for the animals that might eventually be in your care. The answer is still the same. Get educated and go slow. An animal that lives 30 years is not a fad. It is a lifetime commitment. You jump to breeding from knowing zilch about snakes. We try to caution you about certain species.

End of the day is your dime. I am out of here.

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skyrivers out!!

[Danger noodles]

This thread is evidence why the OP shouldn’t even think about breeding for a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time!!!


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U being a car guy like me, it’s the same thing when someone comes on to a car fourm and wants a 10 sec suv for 8k. They found an eBay turbo Kit that is only 5k and then they can spray the thing too! Then when people tell them u need a $5k trans and 10k built engine etc they get all mad.

[redshepherd]

lets talk numbers. most of the balls i have seen are 300-600. lets call it $1000 for a pair. i've seen videos about complete terrariums for $100. this is assuming i want to do a terrarium and not a plastic tub. bags of 50 feeders are less than $50 and last 6 months so $100 a year. balls lay 4-6 eggs annually. i sell babies for $200-500. my breeders live 20-40 years. how is this a losing situation?

You forget many things that entail snake keeping... It's not just sticking them in a glass tank and giving them a little food.

Herpstat are essentially are a requirement if you want to play it safe with high-end animals. Herpstat4 for 3 animals is $340. If you go with terrarium, better to go with an RHP, which are $40~$60 each with one per cage, so about $150. If you want to play it safe with ball pythons, you really need a pvc cage to use for your enclosure rather than a glass terrarium if you're not using a tub setup, which glass terrariums do not hold humidity (unless you want to cover the top with foil... but it doesn't look too good). $200~$250 per cage per animal, so that's $700 if you have three animals.

If you get adult ball pythons, you will not get 50 small rats for less than $50 lol... Fifty small rats would be about $100 including shipping and that will only last you 4 months. So it is actually about $250~$300 a year.

Ball pythons won't lay eggs annually. Females will often skip a year every 2-3 years.

Of course if you are counting in the long run, for sure you'll earn the funds back and more if the prices of your morphs didn't depreciate by a lot. But you won't be "making extra cash on the side" at best you break even in 2 years.