Quote Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
could u post pix of their bellies? the first one could be Enchi, but a very low quality one. it's currently dull (but orange after shed?), has lotsa dots but enough pattern reduction and fade from the belly that makes me think Enchi. also the girl has a light triangle "head stamp" blushing.

u can raise the temps by putting them in a smaller tub. reducing the volume of air might help increase temps.

i don't think the tongue thing is a birth defect. i remember an noob keeper thought that about her snake and the "controversy". see here: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...Disabled-Snake and u know what, it turned out fine. full tongue and the snake started eating. i just think she's stressed and needs more time to adjust to her new surroundings and needs to get back to normal - size, shed and feeding - and that tongue will be flicking at full length.

anyways good job on the rescue/rehome and i wish u guys the best!
I'll see if I can get a few belly pics tonight or tomorrow after work and maybe the boy's other side. If I remember correctly, one side had more dots than the other, though the banding is definitely not a great example if he is.. I didn't think to take any other pictures and they were not cooperative for photo time to start with with only 1 hand. I'm hesitant to do today since I've already had to mess with them twice in 24 hrs, so I'll see how they look after work and decide then.

I don't know for sure that he is dull right now. It sounds like he shed 2, maybe 3 weeks ago? They weren't super specific. If he sheds every month/4 weeks, he may he starting to go dull again, but hard to say. How bright he gets is based on their subjective evaluation right now... time will tell. Thanks for the thoughts!

They seemed pretty sure the girl was a normal, but I did see the head stamp too. She's very non-gold in color, even where the shed is peeled off, so not likely to be fire or any of those. It looks like a very flat beige on brown. I'm not familiar enough with the dark/subtle morphs to have any idea. I'll try to get a few shots of her when the shed is out of the way too.

They are both in the smallest tubs I've got that I can rig good heat for, roughly 12 quarts, the smallest size the Animal Plastics racks take. Roughly 10"×14"
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My other option is standalone 6 qt tubs, but those would have ambients of 72-73 with the equipment I have on hand. The enclosed rack holds a few degrees higher as-is so I figured that was best.

I'll probably try to assist the temps by replacing the water daily with 80+ degree water and that should help some too. The warmer the water that evaporates, the warmer the air will be, at least briefly. And add the blanket down the front to trap more heat.

I'll check that thread in a minute. I wasn't really suggesting a birth defect here, just looking for alternatives to the usual RI (due to her lack of symptoms) and it was the only thing that came to mind as an alternative. I didn't know stress could cause that kind of reaction, so yeah, I would be that is it. Being smothered by the boy for a while and transported in a car for 3 hrs after... I would be stressed out! An SUV isn't a super smooth ride.

Thanks a bunch for taking the time to reply.

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