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    Re: A break up over husbandry issues ??

    Quote Originally Posted by SquirmyPug View Post
    Care to explain how it can be effected? Of course placement matters. Species also matters and the fact we've been talking about UTHs.

    I haven't been a wise guy, infact I've been nice about everything including people saying things are wrong or that animals are going to get hurt.

    Whether anyone wants to admit it, a probe inside the enclosure above the UTH is nearly identical to having the probe between the enclosure and UTH.

    If you want to talk about something dangerous, how about all the people controlling entire racks with heat tape with a single thermostat? What happens if the thermostat has a problem? You cook all the snakes in the rack?

    I see far more dangerous stuff done with everyone's animals than having a probe inside the enclosure.

    I don’t want to beat a dead horse. The great thing about this country is that I can tell you your wrong and you can disagree and Vice Versa.
    Im sorry to the OP as we have hijacked this thread over beginners Husbandry.
    Its simple, I will not admit anything as you say “ Whether anyone wants to admit it, a probe inside the enclosure above the UTH is nearly identical to having the probe between the enclosure and UTH.”
    Thats plain not true. We’ve explained the difference and you do not agree which is fine.... the probe can be affected by substrate, moisture, the reptile itself etc etc etc....bottom line its not good practice or safe practice.
    You wanted to point out heat tape and Thermostats in a rack having a problem and cooking the rack.. wrong again. If you look into what long time Herpers are using here it will 90% of the time be either 2 Thermostats or a Thermostat that contains safety’s. I use Herpstats and not the “Basics or EZ’s”. I use Herp 2’s that contain not only a alarm but also a shut off to problemed channels if something occurs. Having a cold reptile instead of a over heated reptile is the lesser evil any day. Home temps are ok until you notice the problem. This is why we dont recommend the cheap Pet Store Tstats. Do some people use them, yes... does that mean its the safest, NO.
    So lets stop going around in circles about common sense safety that has been practiced for decades now.
    If you want to debate and pick at each other their is Sub Forum area so that we don’t disrespect people and their Threads.
    Open up a thread in there and as I have time this winter I’ll argue with you here and there when I sit down and have a Drink


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