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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    With ceramic bulbs can u use a regular hest lamp or do u need a different lamp? And does it need to be controlled by a thermostat?

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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    They can be used in any lamp that is rated for the wattage of the bulb. Also, I would suggest only using lamps with ceramic sockets, not plastic.

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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    Quote Originally Posted by ryknoll3 View Post
    They can be used in any lamp that is rated for the wattage of the bulb. Also, I would suggest only using lamps with ceramic sockets, not plastic.
    Okay thanks i believe mine is ceramic how do i tell 100%

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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    The back side of the fixture where the wire goes in will be ceramic. It's about an inch and a half or 2 inches around. I use one of those with the ceramic bulb that puts out only heat and no light. I've got it hooked up to a dimmer and it stays on all the time. I just open the blinds for the day to let ambient light in.

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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Coluber42 View Post
    What you need for heating also depends very much on the temperature of the room you're in. Without that, no one can tell you whether you need more or not.
    Re. basking: First of all, "crepuscular" is not the same as nocturnal. Crepuscular means most active around dawn and dusk, nocturnal means most active during full dark.
    But also, ball pythons do occasionally bask during the day, both in captivity and in the wild, either openly or cryptically. Cryptic basking means the animal is mostly hidden, but some parts of the body are sticking out into the light. They're maybe more likely to bask if they have basking areas with visual cover, so they can still feel somewhat hidden from view. So providing a basking area with branches or leaves (fake is fine) or walls or something near and around it might make it more attractive.

    They don't require it for survival the way many lizards do, but it's not correct to say they never do it.
    Not sure why I wrote nocturnal and crepuscular like they are the same, not what I meant to say however BP’s have been referred to as both

    The wattage is irrelevant because it’s going to be more about the surface area getting warm. Larger wattage bulbs having more heated surface area than lower wattage so bigger is better. It’s only going to get so hot if regulated that’s my support for larger bulb comment.

    They dont require light like lizards and some other snakes because the vitamins that basking in sunlight gives them comes from their prey.

    Ball Pythons require 12 hours of day and 12 hours of night. A red light on a dimmer is giving off light. In my book light is light. I don’t use red lights or any color at night. Exceptions being requirements for immediate issues or needs I must have light for. My male goes right back in his hid eye when his cage is lit up.

    Never been to Africa where BP’s come from but like mine have shown me light means find darkness. Really doubt they hang out in the sun particularly during the main hours of daylight. I have read a lot about these and other snakes.
    Agreeing to disagree

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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    It sounds to me that you have enough of a heat source and the enclosure just needs to be better insulated to trap the heat. That will definitely help with ambients.


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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

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    It sounds to me that you have enough of a heat source and the enclosure just needs to be better insulated to trap the heat. That will definitely help with ambients.


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    Yeah im going to figure somethjngnojtni came home after work to check on her cause its getting cold out and my room is at 70 i turned space heater on now the thermometor is saying 74.8 its a memory one so i checked min temp it was in the 60s last night ugh i got to insulate this way way better also thank god for her uth what was reading 88 she hid in her hot side probably all night thats where she was when i found her im starting to worry about these temps in my room i live in a basement and i dont have controlnof thermostatn up stairs so im leaving space heater on till i can figure something out thankfully temps are at 75 now on cool side

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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    When I had my guy in a rack.. I set a space heater up to a thermostat which would kick it on whenever it got below 78.. just make sure the thermostat can handle wattage of space heater.


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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jmarshall View Post
    When I had my guy in a rack.. I set a space heater up to a thermostat which would kick it on whenever it got below 78.. just make sure the thermostat can handle wattage of space heater.


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    Dont have an extra thermostat dont have any money to get one right this moment

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    Re: Question on ceramic bulbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan_ View Post
    Dont have an extra thermostat dont have any money to get one right this moment

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    If you're on a budget, don't use a space heater. You can buy them for not too much and you might even have one already, but add up a few months of electric bills and heating an entire room when you really only need to heat a few cubic feet of it makes a lot less sense. That's even more true if you start talking about raising the thermostat in your entire house.

    A 1500-watt space heater run 24/7 could cost $3-4 per day. Even if it only has to run half the time to raise the room temperature to where you need it, that's still at least $1.50 per day or $45 per month. People complain that RHP's are expensive, but a 80-watt RBI panel costs the same as running that space heater for only two months. Obviously the 80-watt panel isn't free to run, but running it 24/7 is still barely more than a tenth of the cost of running a 1500-watt space heater 12 hours per day. A space heater is a fine band-aid solution for when your equipment fails or you're waiting for shipments or whatever, but it is NOT a long term budget solution!

    The reason I recommend to err on the side of a higher wattage CHE if you're unsure is that it's better to have more capacity than you need just in case the room temperature drops more than you think. If you need ~45 watts of output to get the temperature you need most of the time, then most of the time a 50 watt CHE will be fine. So will a 75 watt one, or a 100 watt one. They'll all work, because the thermostat will regulate it, so it won't really matter much which one you have. But if it gets colder and now 50 watts of output isn't enough, the thermostat can't turn your 50 watt bulb into a 75 watt bulb. It's cheaper to just buy the 100 watt one in the first place than to buy the 50 watt one, discover that on the coldest days it isn't enough, and then go buy another one.

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