Ball python sleeping?

[Traceur]

I have been in and out of my room throughout the day, and I noticed my baby bp has been hiding under his paper towel substrate (his temporary container hides are not doing it for him anymore, I know, I'm going to get better secure hides this week) all day, and I saw him wrapped up in a little ball. His head is kind of leaning into his stomach, but still breathing. At first, I kind of wondered if he was okay. So I opened his door and lifted the paper towel he was under, and sure enough, he was sleeping. Didn't look up at me like he usually does, didn't stir, nothing. Just laid there like a messed up cinnamon roll. He started waking up and I left him alone, and he went back to sleep after about 15 minutes.

So, I actually figured maybe snakes actually dream or have nightmares when they sleep. I know tons of you wondered what snakes dream of too.
What do you think they dream about when they sleep?

[Lirenn]

Going on vacation.

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[Traceur]

Going on vacation.

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Awww how cuuuute!
Happy noodle traveling far

[Alter-Echo]

I'm guessing they dream about lots of things, but things limited to their experiences. For example, a python that was captive bred wouldn't dream about the wild since it had never been there and they wouldn't even know it exists.

[Traceur]

I'm guessing they dream about lots of things, but things limited to their experiences. For example, a python that was captive bred wouldn't dream about the wild since it had never been there and they wouldn't even know it exists.

Yeah, you have a point XD You know those weird dreams where you're somewhere strange and you don't know where you're at? I think it could almost be something related, but maybe not something as specific as their natural habitat?

[Bogertophis]

I'd LIKE to think they dream but it's hard to know...it would sure be an indication if they'd do like dogs do- twitch & make various motions that suggest they're
dreaming about doing stuff, but I can't say I've ever seen a sleeping snake do any such things- have any of you???

First, it's hard to tell IF & WHEN they're sleeping, but even if you assume they are, I've never seen them do anything to suggest dreams, like tail twitching or
moving their scutes. I don't think this proves that they DON'T dream either though: maybe there are mechanisms that keep them still while sleeping, so they
are harder to find by predators? (ie. maybe the ones that sleep totally still survived to breed whereas the ones that gave themselves away got wiped out?)

I DO wish they'd find a way to tell us though... 'cause now I want to know.

[Traceur]

I'd LIKE to think they dream but it's hard to know...it would sure be an indication if they'd do like dogs do- twitch & make various motions that suggest they're
dreaming about doing stuff, but I can't say I've ever seen a sleeping snake do any such things- have any of you???

First, it's hard to tell IF & WHEN they're sleeping, but even if you assume they are, I've never seen them do anything to suggest dreams, like tail twitching or
moving their scutes. I don't think this proves that they DON'T dream either though: maybe there are mechanisms that keep them still while sleeping, so they
are harder to find by predators? (ie. maybe the ones that sleep totally still survived to breed whereas the ones that gave themselves away got wiped out?)

I DO wish they'd find a way to tell us though... 'cause now I want to know.

All animals are different. Even humans. When we dream, we may do certain things, while others may not. I've seen this in both cats and dogs. Cats react differently when you wake them up in a middle of a dream or nightmare. Sometimes they'll greet you like any other, or they'll jump out of their minds just by the slightest touch. Now I've seen this with the same cat, whether or not he acted in his sleep. I know of dogs who dream when they sleep, but sometimes do or don't act out.
As for movement, I noticed my bp's head being in different positions whenever I checked on him every other hour since he's been sleeping all day. But what do we know?? I just assumed, really. But I guess we'll never know the true answer, huh?

[Godzilla78]

I one time thought Flame was dead because she was laying with her head and neck out of her hide, like she always does when she is hanging out in ambush mode 80% of the time, but she was laying like dead weight with her head resting completely on the substrate, out in the open in broad daylight. I had to poke her like 4 times to check if she was dead before she finally woke up!
Ever since then, I can usually tell when she is sleeping because she completely lays relaxed on the substrate and her head is just like dead weight laying on s pillow.

[Traceur]

I one time thought Flame was dead because she was laying with her head and neck out of her hide, like she always does when she is hanging out in ambush mode 80% of the time, but she was laying like dead weight with her head resting completely on the substrate, out in the open in broad daylight. I had to poke her like 4 times to check if she was dead before she finally woke up!
Ever since then, I can usually tell when she is sleeping because she completely lays relaxed on the substrate and her head is just like dead weight laying on s pillow.

Ah, don't they just love to freak us out and make us worry? XD It seems like innocent noodles do that more often than I thought. I swear, they really do make us parents. We love them, but gosh, they really do get the better of us

[Bogertophis]

Ah, don't they just love to freak us out and make us worry? XD It seems like innocent noodles do that more often than I thought. I swear, they really do make us parents. We love them, but gosh, they really do get the better of us

Years ago on another forum there was a member whose large boa sometimes slept upside down, on his back, nearly giving her a heart attack- he looked dead!
In the snake's defense, his former owners had abused him & he was also significantly overweight...I have a hunch that position was more comfortable for him &
maybe helped his circulation? Sure didn't help his owner though, lol...