Yup. cleaned up in the morning. She just wanted nothing to do with it. Like I said I have the best success rate with live mice. On rare occasion I will give her a small rat but she wont always take it. I understand where you are coming from with the not feeding live thing but that isn't going to change. I do it safely and intervene in anything starts looking sketchy. But that's not what this post was about in the first place. Don't get me wrong I appreciate your input but there is plenty other threads where this debate has raged for ages.