Thanks for the tips. Their perches are removable but neither of them were using them. I put the hook in with them and they climbed on. I did not grab or pull them. I think they thought food was coming. Today is feeding day for everyone. Should make them happier. I think the humidity on the bottom of the cage is higher than the top so they are sitting on the moist moss on the bottom. My humidity is 75-80% depending on how hot the house gets during the day. Spit Fire is in shed so she might need more right now.