Live vs frozen/thawed

[Craiga 01453]

I find it funny you and Craig are claiming my post is not true, and go on about like I told the person to feed his snake veggies instead. I answered his question, you didn't lol.

BUT my statement clearly stated a BAD breeder MAY do something for a particular reason, you claim I shouldn't assume, yet you went ahead and assumed I said or meant all breeders. You're also ASSUMING that he bought it from a breeder who has a 1000 snakes. Last time I checked in Canada, and I'm going to ASSUME in the US, there are a lot more smaller/personal breeders than the larger breeders/dealers. And not all Breeders are the same.

And then you continue to discuss it as if I now screwed the person over, funny thing about forums is people think they are experts based on how long they've been here for or how many posts.

Yeah I'm going to defend my words and yeah I find the extra comments weren't necessary, the extra information was helpful and gives people another view to look at, but was more of, let me come in here, ignore the main question and just go off about how bad this person's assuming comment was.

So I'm going to stick with my original comment as being useful

Actually, if you look at the 2nd reply, I did answer the OPs question.


No need for you to go on the defensive. Nobody said anything about veggies, nobody said anything about screwing anybody over. That's all you. Sometimes, people are wrong. I have been wrong more times than I can count. But I admit my faults and learn from them.

Your first paragraph says "there are absolutely no advantages, except disadvantages of Live feeders, not a single advantage that could convince someone to switch over." That simply isn't true. Let me cite one example for you: a keeper gets a new snake, said snake goes on food strike and begins losing decent weight but still refuses F/T and fresh killed, the keeper offers live prey, the snake eats...yup advantage to feeding live.

You went on to say "One common thing you hear with owners who do Live which is totally wrong is, "I want the snake to feel like it's still in the wild, its better for it", they still attack the F/T feeder the same way, so it's no different.".
A) since around 1999/2000 when I started keeping snakes have never once heard this, not once. So it probably isn't all that common.
B) no, not all snakes still attack the F/T feeder the same way. So you're incorrect there.

Now onto the "bad breeder" thing...there's no end to what a "bad breeder" may do. I have never heard of a breeder feeding live because they are "too cheap to invest in a humane way to kill the mice/rats so they just feed them as is." but I have heard of many breeders who feed live for convenience, but do it safely and are knowledgeable.

You also said "every snake can be switched over with time, skill and patience." I'd love yo hear your experience to back this up...

Look, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you were asking "beginner" and "amateur" (your words, directly from your thread titles) questions in January. On March 29 you started a thread in which the opening line was "So I have no experience with Live Prey" so maybe you're just not experienced enough to answer questions you have no experience with. " funny thing about forums is people think they are experts based on how long they've been here for or how many posts." I don't claim to be an expert, but when I offer advice it's because I'm confident in what I'm saying, have learned it from enough reliable sources and have enough hands on experience to be confident in what I'm saying. When I'm not confident or have no experience i either don't answer the question or I make sure I let people know I have no experience and that I am only sharing what I have read.

Look, I'm not ragging on you, I'm just saying you should graciously accept that some of the info you shared wasn't great advice and move on. Learn from people with more experience and maybe refrain from giving advice here you don't have enough experience...