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    Cool. Clearly we were all in the wrong to ever question you and your expertise OP.

    Where has anyone accused you of animal abuse? How was anyone here not been trying to be helpful? They were trying to help you address the problem. Oh wait, because it wasn’t praise? Because you didn’t expect any critisism? Because people asked important questions that implied you might be doing things wrong? You??? How could that be??? You came here to the forum asking for advise and you didn’t like the answers so you’re purposely interpreting that as everyone tearing you apart for the lawls?

    Quote Originally Posted by waymire01 View Post
    You need numbers to "prove" my temps are good? Seriously?


    ANYONE can say their husbandry and temperatures are fine. But how do we know that without being presented with the exact numbers? How do YOU know your temperatures are fine without referring to number values? We’ve seen it countless times, new members insisting their temps are fine but later finding out they were totally off and didn’t know the different between surface temperatures and ambient. Most had unregulated heat sources.

    You can keep bad husbandry for decades. Snakes are surprisingly resilient even in a stressful environments. I guess the question is for how much longer when you can’t even recognize displays of stress? Hopefully we won’t see another thread by you about your ball python being eaten by the other. Oh didn’t you know? Snake cannibilism is definitely a thing and could very well happen.

    NO your ball pythons are NOT social. Some snakes such as garter and rattlesnakes do live together, but pythons are NOT the same. Doesn’t matter how much you think they are or want to project mammal characteristics to them, it doesn’t change the fact they don’t product oxytocin - which is the “bonding hormone” in your brain.

    That’s the scientific truth. Plain and simple. I’m not saying they don’t appreciate enrichment. But you have to make sure you are giving them species appropriate enrichment. Forcing your ball pythons to interact with eachother is NOT it. The behaviors you think you’re seeing are a misconception because you are constantly comparing them to mammals.

    Get over yourself. Do the basic research needed for the species you’re looking after instead of projecting your own variation of how you WANT them to act. Don’t willfully choose to stay ignorant for the sake of your pride over the well being of your pets. I don’t doubt you love them and thought you were doing them right, but sometimes you have to be honest with yourself;

    Are you doing everything for them or yourself?

    Doing the right thing isn’t always going to be what you want and it’s okay to admit that and do something about it.
    Just take a moment and think about this without any ego involved. Not for us. But for your snakes.









    Last edited by MissterDog; 04-01-2018 at 11:18 AM.
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