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BP Stud'ing?
Do people do this at all? I have mostly females right now that I'm growing up to be eventual breeders. But instead of keeping my own males, I was wondering if people Stud out their males at all? If not i'll probably get some more males next year, but I was just curious! haha
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BP:
.1 Bumble Bee het Albino - Beeatris
.1 Albino - Lucille
1. Coral Glow Chocolate - Monty
Pied project:
.1 Pied 66% poss het Albino - Daenerys
.1 Pied proven breeder - Khaleesi
1. Pied proven breeder - Kahl Drogo
Bel Project:
.1 Super Lesser - Rhea
.1 Mojave - Kallisto
.1 Butter Pastel - Hera
1. Mojave (pos het orange ghost) - Cronos
1. Super Mojave - Zeus
Scaleless - Cat:
.1 Maine Coon - Ellie
1. Flame Point Siamese - Nikola
1. Tabby - Jake
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Stud services are not typically offered as you'd find in the dog/cat/horse/cow/etc. breeding industries. The female would have to go through the QT process before being introduced to the male, they would have to be paired for long enough for him to do his job, and then the female would have to be QT'ed when her owner took her back. So, it's a fairly big hassle considering that male BP's are relatively cheap to purchase and keep.
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First off, I have no hands on experience here, so I felt I should make that clear.
I have read similar threads as well as other things about this topic. The answer usually ends up taking many roads to the same destination. But the destination is almost always the same.
The short answer, again, only from what I've read, is that the hassle and risk greatly outweighs the reward. Like said above, its fairly inexpensive to add a male, or a few, to your collection if you plan to breed. And the fiscal cost seems to be easier to deal with than locating the males, developing an agreement/contract, the quarantine, the time, fighting over holdbacks, shady "business partners", etc..
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Re: BP Stud'ing?
I just think the only way it would work is with HIGH END males. If you're going to do it you most likely will end up shipping back and forth ....so figure at least $100 in shipping costs right off the bat. Then figure you need the utmost trust in the person that will be using the male's services AND/OR a deposit equal to the value of the animal. Then, like BCR said....QT times on top of it.
$100 minimum in shipping costs
A deposit equal to the value of the animal
...and the actual fee the owner of the male decides to charge OR offspring from the clutch
So yeah, I think you actually could find a few breeders that would let you do it but to be worth your while you would be talking about some pretty serious genetics....and some pretty serious cash. I am unaware of any actual dedicated "stud" service that exists however.
Last edited by KevinK; 02-28-2018 at 11:22 AM.
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Breeding loan are done the female will typically move to the male to which she should be bred too (this is to avoid sending a male and the male being bred to every female possible without it being disclosed)
The first thing is to have a solid contract that covers anything from QT to vet care if necessary to split to first choice (not all slipt are 50/50 it depends on the value of the animal being paired)
It's a tricky process sometime the animal does not go that season and has to stay another season.
The problem is many people have been burned, things did not happen the way they should (typical when money is involved), honestly it's best to save up and by the animal you need then go through that headache.
I have done loans with some dear friends but we value our friendship more than any monetary outcomes and many of the loans I did was to help others and did not even keep any animals.
Again risky tricky I have seen friendship ruined over this.
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I did a boa breeding loan (the male was sent to breed with my female) and while my experience went well, it's not something I would recommend or that I would probably do again.
If you do it, just make sure to get everything in writing to cover EVERY possible thing that could happen. In addition to things Deborah mentioned, what if one of them dies?
I've heard stories of breeding loans going badly, friendships ending over greed and lies. Just be careful and make sure both parties are in full agreement.
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