Probe placement issues

[robert7107]

What can I do to fix this problem?
Like to have the hot side at 90-92 an cool side at 78-82...


I installed my heat panel yesterday and hooked it up to a thermostat setting at 80 degrees..
The temperature reading on the floor on the cool side where the probe is was 78 to 81 degrees turn on the hot side 92-92 degrees...

My room temperature reached 80 degrees turning the thermostat off keeping my cool side around 77-78 but my hot side was only 82- 84 degree...

My room temperature ranges anywhere between 76-80 year round.. I run a space heater during winter months an AC is kept at 77 at the lowest an usually close the vent when not in the room... Snakes are kept in bedroom....


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[Valyrian]

What can I do to fix this problem?
Like to have the hot side at 90-92 an cool side at 78-82...


I installed my heat panel yesterday and hooked it up to a thermostat setting at 80 degrees..
The temperature reading on the floor on the cool side where the probe is was 78 to 81 degrees turn on the hot side 92-92 degrees...

My room temperature reached 80 degrees turning the thermostat off keeping my cool side around 77-78 but my hot side was only 82- 84 degree...

My room temperature ranges anywhere between 76-80 year round.. I run a space heater during winter months an AC is kept at 77 at the lowest an usually close the vent when not in the room... Snakes are kept in bedroom....


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You should have any heater probe positioned in-line with the centre of the heat source and halfway between the heater and the ground. You want to ensure the heat source is accurately controlled and not the ambient temps or the cool side temps. Calibrate the basking temp with an infra red temp gun.

The ambient and cool side temps will be on point as long as the wattage of your heat source is what is recommended for the size of your enclosure. This is because you want to have the basking area set to a certain temperature that dictates the rest of the cage temps.

For example I have my baby Burm in a 4 x 2 enclosure. A 150 watt heat source is the sweet spot for the size of my enclosure. So as long as my heat source is controlled by a pulse proportional stat all other enclosure temps fall in-line irrespective of external room temps within reason

[robert7107]

You should have any heater probe positioned in-line with the centre of the heat source and halfway between the heater and the ground. You want to ensure the heat source is accurately controlled and not the ambient temps or the cool side temps. Calibrate the basking temp with an infra red temp gun.

The ambient and cool side temps will be on point as long as the wattage of your heat source is what is recommended for the size of your enclosure. This is because you want to have the basking area set to a certain temperature that dictates the rest of the cage temps.

For example I have my baby Burm in a 4 x 2 enclosure. A 150 watt heat source is the sweet spot for the size of my enclosure. So as long as my heat source is controlled by a pulse proportional stat all other enclosure temps fall in-line irrespective of external room temps within reason

Ok..
Bob at pro products suggested I put it on the cool side set the temperature for what I wanted to the ambient temperature to be.. at the time of ordering it I told him my room dropped down to the low 70's before I started using the space heater...

I'll move the probe over hot side then....

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[Valyrian]

Ok..
Bob at pro products suggested I put it on the cool side set the temperature for what I wanted to the ambient temperature to be.. at the time of ordering it I told him my room dropped down to the low 70's before I started using the space heater...

I'll move the probe over hot side then....

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I've never heard of that before but I live in the UK so maybe our ideas on setup are different than in the US. It doesn't make sense to me though because you're not controlling your basking temp at all which I think would be dangerous due to potential over or under heating.

[robert7107]

I've never heard of that before but I live in the UK so maybe our ideas on setup are different than in the US. It doesn't make sense to me though because you're not controlling your basking temp at all which I think would be dangerous due to potential over or under heating.

I haven't used heat panels before so this is new to me I'll go ahead and put it on the hot side center of the panel halfway down from the floor to the ceiling...
It's going to be awhile before I put a snake in there so I have plenty of time to adjust it to get the right temperature

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[Valyrian]

I haven't used heat panels before so this is new to me I'll go ahead and put it on the hot side center of the panel halfway down from the floor to the ceiling...
It's going to be awhile before I put a snake in there so I have plenty of time to adjust it to get the right temperature

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I use a ceramic heat emitter but the theory should be the same. I'd be interested to see if moving it to the heat source works out.

[robert7107]

I use a ceramic heat emitter but the theory should be the same. I'd be interested to see if moving it to the heat source works out.

I'll try tomorrow morning an post the results

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[Sauzo]

I ran my probes on the cool side as well when i ran RHPs. The reason i quit running them was the same problems you are seeing now. In a warm room, the RHP isnt going to come on much if you have the probe set on the cool side. If you move it to the warm side and set it for a 90F hot spot, it will heat the cool side quite a bit warmer. In my case, it would put the warm side around 88-90F and the cool side would go up to 83F or so. In a cold room, RHPs work awesome but in a warm room, they suck imo. Thats why i switched everyone over to flexwatt when i switched all my cages over to AP. Now i get a nice 88F hot spot with the flexwatt but the rest of cage including ambient is room temp at anywhere from 77-79F.

Really the only way i see you getting it to work is to shut down the room heating and let it get below 75F. Otherwise you are going to end up with either a good hot spot and too hot of cool side or good cool side and no hot spot. But to be honest, snakes dont NEED belly heat or a hot spot. They will just fine with a a good ambient but they wont pass up a good hot spot if offered lol.

[CALM Pythons]

Ok..
Bob at pro products suggested I put it on the cool side set the temperature for what I wanted to the ambient temperature to be.. at the time of ordering it I told him my room dropped down to the low 70's before I started using the space heater...

I'll move the probe over hot side then....

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Yes thats what Bob likes. I do not do that. I was on the phone with Bob for over a hr today debating and joking about all this. I also put my probe on the Hot side. My probe comes in the Back wall (with RHP power cord) and hangs down the back wall 1/2 between the Floor and Top where RHP is.
Not sure what you use for a Tstat but that is also something that can cause a jump in Hot temp. If its a On/Off verses Proportional you get a spike here and there.. No big deal. Just keep it Lower than Higher. A Ball can do fine at 88 on hotside when a spiked hot side can cause brain issues. So as long as cool side is 75/76min-81max and Hot 86min-90/91max your all clear.


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[robert7107]

Yes thats what Bob likes. I do not do that. I was on the phone with Bob for over a hr today debating and joking about all this. I also put my probe on the Hot side. My probe comes in the Back wall (with RHP power cord) and hangs down the back wall 1/2 between the Floor and Top where RHP is.
Not sure what you use for a Tstat but that is also something that can cause a jump in Hot temp. If its a On/Off verses Proportional you get a spike here and there.. No big deal. Just keep it Lower than Higher. A Ball can do fine at 88 on hotside when a spiked hot side can cause brain issues. So as long as cool side is 75/76min-81max and Hot 86min-90/91max your all clear.


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Right now I'm using a Helix dp1000 but I don't plan to use permanently only to test the area.. plan to go with a herpstat 2 .. the snake I plan to put into the cage isnt big enough in my option to go in it..4ft x 2ft cage an she is close to 4ft...


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