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+ Albino White Lipped Python, thoughts?
I was browsing a White Lipped Python FB group looking for more information on those beautiful snakes and someone claimed to have a het Albino White Lipped. Naturally I checked out his page and he actually appears to have one. Here's the link to his FB page and his website. I'm not really a fan of it but I'm happy it exists, I wish more people worked with these snakes. And if everything goes to plan in a couple months I'll get one of my own.
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very interesting! that's a T-positive animal tho but still very interesting. there's gotta be T-negatives out there.
one of my dream snakes is an all-white, red eye snake w/ iridescent scales. i got my fingers crossed!
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Re: + Albino White Lipped Python, thoughts?
Originally Posted by Ax01
very interesting! that's a T-positive animal tho but still very interesting. there's gotta be T-negatives out there.
one of my dream snakes is an all-white, red eye snake w/ iridescent scales. i got my fingers crossed!
I'm not too well versed in genetics, what is the difference?
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Re: + Albino White Lipped Python, thoughts?
Originally Posted by Ax01
very interesting! that's a T-positive animal tho but still very interesting. there's gotta be T-negatives out there.
one of my dream snakes is an all-white, red eye snake w/ iridescent scales. i got my fingers crossed!
Originally Posted by MD_Pythons
I'm not too well versed in genetics, what is the difference?
oh geez i'm not too good w/ technical definitions. maybe someone else can chime in.
anyway T-positive albino animals still have the enzyme tyrosinase which can still give the animal various shades of grey, browns, etc. darker pigments, but not black, mixed in w/ it's yellows, oranges and lighter colors. u can think of it as an incomplete albino. like the T-positive White Lipped Python above, it doesn't even have pink/red eyes.
a T-negative animal is your typical albino. it doesn't have tyrosinase and have shades of yellows, oranges, etc. and has pink/red eyes. i would guess a T-negative albino White Lipped Python would be white where it was black and yellow where it had color, w/ pink/red eyes. (also fingers crossed that it would still be iridescent.)
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Ax is close in his description.
T-Neg lacks the enzyme tyrosinase and, as such, is not capable of synthesizing melanin so the only pigmentation you will see is non-melanin based (yellows, oranges, reds).
T-Pos have the tyrosinase enzyme and are able to synthesize melanin. In most cases the nature of the mutation in these animals is one that reduces the amount of melanin displayed such that you get lighter pigmentation of normally dark areas. However, there are some cases where you have a mutation that disrupts/destroys the ability for melanin to be properly displayed despite the fact that it is being produced. In those cases you get a phenotype that can very closely resemble a T-Neg, like Lavs and Candy/Toffee and Rainbow.
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Re: + Albino White Lipped Python, thoughts?
I love the normal and black WLPs but I'm not crazy about the one in the picture
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Re: + Albino White Lipped Python, thoughts?
Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy
I love the normal and black WLPs but I'm not crazy about the one in the picture
I agree 100%, but as they say, different strokes for different folks
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Re: + Albino White Lipped Python, thoughts?
Originally Posted by asplundii
Ax is close in his description.
T-Neg lacks the enzyme tyrosinase and, as such, is not capable of synthesizing melanin so the only pigmentation you will see is non-melanin based (yellows, oranges, reds).
T-Pos have the tyrosinase enzyme and are able to synthesize melanin. In most cases the nature of the mutation in these animals is one that reduces the amount of melanin displayed such that you get lighter pigmentation of normally dark areas. However, there are some cases where you have a mutation that disrupts/destroys the ability for melanin to be properly displayed despite the fact that it is being produced. In those cases you get a phenotype that can very closely resemble a T-Neg, like Lavs and Candy/Toffee and Rainbow.
hey Dr. Ash, would u consider the Sunset BP a T-positive Albino? i think the Caramel Albino is already considered so, but was wondering if Sunset was another (new) line of T-positives.
Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy
I love the normal and black WLPs but I'm not crazy about the one in the picture
i love them all. their iridescence is amazing and the joker smile is just killer! an Albino would be a bonus!!
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Re: + Albino White Lipped Python, thoughts?
Originally Posted by Ax01
hey Dr. Ash, would u consider the Sunset BP a T-positive Albino? i think the Caramel Albino is already considered so, but was wondering if Sunset was another (new) line of T-positives.
I do not see the Sunset as being a T-Pos. To my eye they seem to produce melanin just fine. It more appears that the nature of the Sunset mutation is one of improper distribution of all pigmentation in the animal
The T-Pos morphs I recognize are: Caramel, Ultramel/Burgundy/Crider, Monarch, Banana/CG, Candy/Toffee, Rainbow, and Lav
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