Quote Originally Posted by wolfy-hound View Post
Lots of animals kill for the pleasure of it. It's the nature of a predator to kill, and they sometimes indulge in killing. Dogs will kill sheep or goats for the fun of it. All wild canids will. POssums and raccoons will kill entire hutches full of fowl, leaving all to rot except for the innards of one or two.

Frozen rodents don't kill a snake. Spoiled rodents kill a snake. If you feed spoiled rodents, you're irresponsible, just like if you don't supervise live feedings.

A rabbit can absolutely kill a large snake. Just because the large snake is strong enough to kill the rabbit doesn't mean that it will hit the rabbit correctly 100% of the time. If it makes a bad hit, and the rabbit can kick it properly, then your snake could be mortally injured. It CAN happen. Absolutely can. A frozen/thawed rabbit will never kick the snake.

So stating "frozen can kill" is silly. Live can kill. Spoiled can kill.

And lab excess isn't a bad thing. They aren't selling you animals they've tested drugs on. Those have to be used for the results. The excess supply a lab sells is never exposed to anything, because the breeding colony is kept strictly separate or it will destroy the entire colony for use in their testing regimes. They simply breed more rodents than they need to use, and sell the excess. They're good healthy animals.
Im not buying that argument that a rabbit can kill a large Constrictor by kicking it. That might happen with an underfed Constrictor that has a weak bones and a small muscle mass. Not all Constrictors have the same hardness of bones and muscle mass. Humans and other animals don’t also. What I like about boa is that it’s a hunter by instinct, an efficient hunter. Either it will strike with full speed and power or it won’t.