Thanks, Sauzo. Is that his exact name here on the forum? I did a member search for "Reptile Expert" and the results said that is was an invalid username... Please forgive my ignorance, but what does H.O.T. stand for? Out of curiosity I did a search on Google for "hot snakes" and all that comes up is websites for a band called "Hot Snakes"... In the urban dictionary, the definition of Hot Snakes is; The fecal matter typical of the morning after a heavy night of drinking. Resembles long thin coils of a snake and usually "hot" when coming out (think spicy food.) LOL!