I went back to aspen. My snakes thrived on it for years and they seem to actually like it better. With the Reptichips, they would push it aside and lay on the cage floor. With the aspen they lay on top of it. Also for my retic, his liquid would soak through and dry on the cage bottom. With the aspen, her piss just soaks into the aspen and it gets darker so its easy to spot clean. And same with poops. Also i have no issue keeping 70% humidity with aspen which was the main reason i switched to Reptichips anyways. One thing Reptichips has is it's cheap compared to aspen as Bean Farm doesnt carry the 7.5 cu ft bales anymore which i could pick up locally. Now i have to shell out for 24 qt bags of Zoo Med aspen. Stuff is nice but expensive.