thanks for the judgement. And if they already had a hold of it and if they were already constricting around it no way would I be able to get it out without hurting the snake. I take offense to the irresponsible comment. Not that I would feed live anyway. But if you want to go there....it is irresponsible to feed live to even put your snake in the situation to begin with. So f/t it is so my snakes done even get hurt or even have that chance.