New Rescue. Normie or no?

[Stewart_Reptiles]

How about getting back on track and leave the other discussion for another time in another thread

This is a reduced pattern normal which may or may not be genetic, many are not.

[cletus]

He/She is a gorgeous snake regardless. Hopefully some TLC will get him back on track! Congrats!

[cmccu5]

That's not a rescue animal. That's an animal bought from somewhere that treats the animals poorly (as the pics indicate). Buying from these stores is supporting them and putting more money in their pockets with which they will buy more animals and treat them this same, sad way.

They are there to make sales, buying from them is supporting them, not rescuing an animal.

In my original post I stated that they could not sell the animal. No money changed hands.


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[Jeanne]

That's not a rescue animal. That's an animal bought from somewhere that treats the animals poorly (as the pics indicate). Buying from these stores is supporting them and putting more money in their pockets with which they will buy more animals and treat them this same, sad way.

They are there to make sales, buying from them is supporting them, not rescuing an animal.

This^^^ people quit buying from big box stores and calling it a rescue. You purchased a snake in poor health.. its not a rescue. Even being no money xchanged.. U still opened the option for thm to bring in more snakes to abuse. Good luck w it. With time he/sge shld be fine.

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[cmccu5]

For the three of you who have actually responded to the question I asked, thank you! I really don't care too much whether it is a reduced normie or a normal normie or a snake worth $8000.. I have provided a better home.

For those of you arguing about my choice of words: no money changed hands. They showed me a baby in need and I took it home for free. For what it's worth, here's my take on the "rescue" debate.. I think rescue is a proper word even if money had changed hands. Webster defines "rescue" as "to free from confinement, danger, or evil". No matter whether money changes hands, if a baby is saved from the danger of mistreatment, it is (by definition) rescued. I do agree that there are some ethical issues at play here and I think that [insert big box name here]'s corporate office should make sure that their associates know how to take care of these animals. Maybe an organized push to demand that would help? Either way. This is a thread asking about a morph thats posted in a forum dedicated to discussing morphs.

[Sunnieskys]

Reduced normal. And they should know the sex by the paperwork that comes in with the animal. As well as weights and feeding charts.

[hollowlaughter]

"Fancy" is just a petstore indicator that often simply adds to the animal's price by its presence, far as I can tell. Listing things as "normal" ball pythons and "normal/regular" rats didn't sell them well, so they're tied to the term "animal fancy".

[PythonBabes]

Fancy usually means any old morph, majority of the time they will not know what it is.

My 'fancy' ball python from PetSmart was a pastel 100% het pied and still very bright and vibrant almost two years later!

[cmccu5]

How about getting back on track and leave the other discussion for another time in another thread

This is a reduced pattern normal which may or may not be genetic, many are not.

Where can I find more information about this? I like to read and know things!

I've looked through the morph pages on here quite a bit, and unless you're referring to the subtle morphs, I haven't seen anything about this.

Reduced normal. And they should know the sex by the paperwork that comes in with the animal. As well as weights and feeding charts.

Their care sheets were seriously lacking. When I actually looked at them closely, I was past livid.

No sex, weight, or hatching info on there. They couldn't give a verbal report on any of that info either. I'm assuming it was hatched around the beginning of the year?

They got this snake on 6/1. Apparently someone had told them to offer food daily when they first got it. They indicated that it fed on 7/11. One week later, they started offering daily again through 7/23.

I have no information for 7/24 through 8/1 (the dates weren't even written in). The dates are written in without any notes from 8/1 through 8/15 where there is a note that it was shedding. No dates or notes until 8/26 when the note says "shedding" and that they had offered food. There is no information for 8/26 through 9/18 when I took it home.

I weighed it at 143g. Still no sex information. I will be posting this info in the husbandry forum as well to ask some questions. That post is here.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

There is very little info on genetic reduced pattern simply because most people really do not care to breed or produce them anymore since they are normal and that some mutation have had the same effect.

However I think they are still something worthy to work with when incorporated in other mutations, there is Joliff line called Tiger which is co-dom (not to be mistaken with the Desert Enchi combo), NERD has the
bengal which is recessive....etc