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09-18-2017, 08:04 AM
#621
Most Recent Snake Picture!
 Originally Posted by PythonBabes
You also had the chance to look away as soon as you saw the mouse moving, but y'know. There's always gonna be crybabies about nature lol.
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It's nothing to do with anyone being crybabies - it's simply a cultural thing - we don't feed LIVE in the UK and as such it's a shock to us . Surely 'feeding vids' can be put under a spoiler or with a link - Anyways , I can't be the only 'crybaby' using this forum ,surely .
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09-18-2017, 09:19 AM
#622
Re: Most Recent Snake Picture!
 Originally Posted by Zincubus
It's nothing to do with anyone being crybabies - it's simply a cultural thing - we don't feed LIVE in the UK and as such it's a shock to us . Surely 'feeding vids' can be put under a spoiler or with a link - Anyways , I can't be the only 'crybaby' using this forum ,surely .
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So denying that you had the chance to look away?? Counted and you had 4-5 seconds before the snake even struck, so really no room to complain, it was your choice to continue watching lol. A squirming mouse held right in front of a snake hide doesn't give you any kind of clue that its about to be eaten ???

Bleh, time to clean Khaa's cage. Whoever says snakes don't pee liquid should clean some and then see how they feel about it lol!
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09-18-2017, 10:54 AM
#623
I prefer frozen/thawed feedings but I would never condemn live feeding either. When you have an animal such as that, at times you have to do what you have to do to make it survive.
Having had BP's (and many other snakes) for as long as I have and having taken in many rescues back then, I can say without a doubt, for some of those snakes it would have been live feeding...or death. That's all there is to it. Granted, I have gotten ALL of them to take frozen/thawed in time, but the wild caught rescues that were not only sick with internal and external parasites, URI, mouthrot AND starved needed some live feedings to pull them back from the brink, before switching could safely be attempted.
The same goes for hatchlings. Some simply WILL NOT take frozen/thawed as their first feeding. No matter how its heated or presented. Hatchlings cannot afford to go very long without a feeding. That is not the time to give "tough love". I find it sad that some of those hatchlings will be assist fed or even force fed before live food is tried. Again, there is not much time to mess about getting a little one to eat.
I guess I look at it that way. Once I take in or breed these animals, I am responsible for their well being. And I need to do whatever it takes to get and keep them well. I prefer frozen/thawed for a bunch of reasons. And I have been able to switch even the most stubborn one. But sometimes it takes time and I would never, ever withhold food from an animal to make it conform to my own morals and standards.
That said, everyone is allowed their own opinion, that is for sure.
But I didn't see anything horrible about the short video posted. It was a new keeper that was excited to see their new snake eat. Something some Ball Pythons and some newbies struggle with. Nothing in that video was gruesome or graphic, imho.
I tried feeding my new hatchlings F/T. None of them went for it, and I surely know how to do it after all those years. After the second try, they got live hoppers. And they took them. In time they will be switched to F/T rats, but for now, they need to eat, no matter how or what. I helped create those creatures, so I need to do what it takes to make them survive.
To keep this on topic, here is one of my little hatchlings.





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09-18-2017, 11:15 AM
#624
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Re: Most Recent Snake Picture!
Beautiful little baby you've got there Zina!
Love the tongue flick pictures!
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09-18-2017, 11:18 AM
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09-18-2017, 11:21 AM
#626
Re: Most Recent Snake Picture!
 Originally Posted by Misternewbie
Haha, gotta love that mustache and goatie!! LOL
Zina
0.1 Super Emperor Pinstripe Ball Python "Sunny" 0.1 Pastel Orange Dream Desert Ghost Ball Python "Luna" 0.1 Pastel Desert Ghost Ball Python "Arjanam" 0.1 Lemonblast Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Aurora" 0.1 Pastel Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Venus" 1.0 Pastel Butter Enchi Desert Ghost Ball Python "Sirius" 1.0 Crested Gecko ( Rhacodactylus ciliatus) "Smeagol"
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09-18-2017, 01:30 PM
#627
Most Recent Snake Picture!
 Originally Posted by PythonBabes
So denying that you had the chance to look away?? Counted and you had 4-5 seconds before the snake even struck, so really no room to complain, it was your choice to continue watching lol. A squirming mouse held right in front of a snake hide doesn't give you any kind of clue that its about to be eaten ???
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As it happens I peruse this forum using TapaTalk and the video is playing as I move through up and down through all the threads - so in answer to your point I have no choice to watch or not watch as its constantly playing on the page .
It's difficult to explain in words and there is no way you could know , of course .
Anyways , I have no wish to fall out or get into a slanging match with anyone ... just thought I'd make my feelings known ...
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09-18-2017, 05:21 PM
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09-18-2017, 05:53 PM
#629
Re: Most Recent Snake Picture!
Omm nom nom! Go Ragnarok! Glad he ate again.
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09-18-2017, 08:45 PM
#630
Re: Most Recent Snake Picture!
Stitch watching some snakes on YouTube 

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