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    Re: Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

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    Re: Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

    What size is your PVC enclosure? They offer multiple size RHP that might work around your LED.

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    Re: Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

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    What size is your PVC enclosure? They offer multiple size RHP that might work around your LED.

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    It's a 20L (36x12x12) although the livable area is really 10 inches deep. There is a LED light fixture attached to the underside of the enclosure so not sure if a RHP would fit. Or would it??




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    At the temps you're describing if you really had 99% humidity in there it would have been raining down the walls. I keep BRB's at 75-80% humidity and the enclosure sides and doors are fogged up very heavily.

    Also while your hygrometer probe should be in the enclosure the actual unit should not me, most electronic devices don't last in high humidity environments and that could be the reason for the high readings.

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    Re: Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    At the temps you're describing if you really had 99% humidity in there it would have been raining down the walls. I keep BRB's at 75-80% humidity and the enclosure sides and doors are fogged up very heavily.

    Also while your hygrometer probe should be in the enclosure the actual unit should not me, most electronic devices don't last in high humidity environments and that could be the reason for the high readings.
    I will definitely look to remove the actual unit out of the cage. It's interesting because I bought another Accurite (probeless) unit and the humidity was reading 10% points less and that was sitting in the same spot as the enclosure.

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    Re: Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by ckuhn003 View Post
    It's a 20L (36x12x12) although the livable area is really 10 inches deep. There is a LED light fixture attached to the underside of the enclosure so not sure if a RHP would fit. Or would it??




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    Contact Bob at Pro-Heat (http://pro-products.com/pro-heat/) his number is 845.628.8960. He is extremely helpful and will give you every option he has available to work around your current situation. Measure and provide him with the largest ceiling space you have available and he will get you something that will work.
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    Re: Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by Stearns84 View Post
    Contact Bob at Pro-Heat (http://pro-products.com/pro-heat/) his number is 845.628.8960. He is extremely helpful and will give you every option he has available to work around your current situation. Measure and provide him with the largest ceiling space you have available and he will get you something that will work.
    So I spoke w/ Bob at Pro-Heat and he's recommending a RHP (50watt) which should fit in my enclosure and allow me to keep the existing LED track lights. Since I currently have a UTH on each side, will the RHP allow me to get rid of the cool side UTH? I believe the surface temps were hovering around 74-75 before I installed the UTH.

    Also, where does the Herpstat Probe attach for a RHP?

    Right now, I have my A/C unit jacked up to 77 degrees in the basement (it's HOT) to achieve the ambients (80). I'm also hoping an RHP will help reduce humidity if I can get rid of the 2nd UTH.

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    I'm going to bet the size RHP he suggested for the size enclosure you are using will allow you to do away with both under tank heaters. The way I have my thermostat probe mounted for RHPs is drilled through the back and hanging several inches below the surface of the heat panel. Then I have the thermostat set to 86, and it provides a hot spot of 89-90. you will of course want to tinker a bit with your personal setup to get it dialed in how you want it.

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    Re: Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

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    I'm going to bet the size RHP he suggested for the size enclosure you are using will allow you to do away with both under tank heaters. The way I have my thermostat probe mounted for RHPs is drilled through the back and hanging several inches below the surface of the heat panel. Then I have the thermostat set to 86, and it provides a hot spot of 89-90. you will of course want to tinker a bit with your personal setup to get it dialed in how you want it.
    Obviously I've got a lot to learn. So an RHP can control surface temps? If it's hanging from the ceiling, I don't understand how it can keep an ambient temp in the low 80s but a hotter temp below in the 90s (surface temp) and how is the temp gradient created (shifting the RHP to one side??) You mentioned your thermostat is set to a lower temp then what is actual measured?? Appreciate the response. I'm def curious about this one.

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    Re: Ambient Temps - Need Suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by ckuhn003 View Post
    Obviously I've got a lot to learn. So an RHP can control surface temps? If it's hanging from the ceiling, I don't understand how it can keep an ambient temp in the low 80s but a hotter temp below in the 90s (surface temp) and how is the temp gradient created (shifting the RHP to one side??) You mentioned your thermostat is set to a lower temp then what is actual measured?? Appreciate the response. I'm def curious about this one.
    IIRC it's because it's IR like a CHE. It'll bounce, so the main point heated is directly below it (your hot spot) then it "bounces" toward other surfaces in your enclosure. Unlike CHE, they don't become burning-hot to the touch due to their wider surface area.

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