Breeder Review: Fred Kick

[ElliotNess]

Well I will let you all know how things go. I won a Pastel HRA from the Renick Auction a month and a half ago. I have had him a month and he hasn't eaten yet. He is 600g so not worried yet but we shall see if he continues to refuse. He seems healthy and has no issues so far. Its crazy cause it is the only snake that I have that did not come from Garrick DeMeyer, TGR, Mike Wilbanks or Randy Foster and hasn't eaten.

[JodanOrNoDan]

Well I will let you all know how things go. I won a Pastel HRA from the Renick Auction a month and a half ago. I have had him a month and he hasn't eaten yet. He is 600g so not worried yet but we shall see if he continues to refuse. He seems healthy and has no issues so far. Its crazy cause it is the only snake that I have that did not come from Garrick DeMeyer, TGR, Mike Wilbanks or Randy Foster and hasn't eaten.

I cannot attest one way or another to the breeder outside of what I have heard, but 600 gram males that suddenly don't care about eating is not unusual in my experience. I have a male from one of the breeders you mentioned that averages about once a month. He is perfectly healthy, he just does not want to be a big boy.

[Enckma]

I know this thread is old but I wanted to share my story about Fred Kicks. I met him at a reptile show and I wanted to buy a Angentine Black and White Tagu baby he was selling. The tank was marked as "Black and White Tagu". I asked if that was an Argentine and he said yes. We talked for a few more minutes before I bought it and took it home. Turns out it was a Columbian Black Tagu, not an Angentine even though he said it was (it was a gift for my husband so I personally don't know much about tagus). We contacted him and he told us buyer beware and he had actually said it was a Columbian Black and White Tagu and I must have misunderstood. I know he said Angentine, I don't know much about them but I do know what my husband wanted. He was very unprofessional and kept calling me a liar before telling us that we had no proof that it was bought as an Argentine. He even said that my husband should have been the one to ask since I don't know what I'm doing. I couldn't believe how openly sexist he was and just how horrible of a person he is. I ended up paying three times what a Columbian is worth and unfortunately the animal was not in good health so there were additional costs for vet care on top of that. I would strongly recommend that people not buy from him if they are looking to get a tagu, I just wish I knew then what I know now about him.

[Lord Sorril]

Met Fred Kick at an expo. He asked what I was looking for: I mentioned ball pythons with the VPI Axanthic trait and he became irate and told me that his TSK line of Axanthic was better. I said nothing and just smiled. I tried to change the topic to look at his snakes, but, he kept getting more and more 'worked up'. Maybe I hit a nerve...My gf pulled at my hand to leave. I never got a good look at his snakes before we retreated.

I do know a lot of breeders underfeed their ball pythons to keep them small-I find that usually stunts their growth/size in the long run-I did get that impression by the ones I saw briefly-but that is common in the trade-so no big deal.