My nightmare clutch to ID...

[JodanOrNoDan]

I did this pairing in order to produce het Lavenders. The pairing was Lavender Spider to Lesser/Mojave pos Pastel. The good news, at least to me is that I do not see pastel in the clutch. I produced 2 Mojaves, 2 Lessers and these three. I only got two girls out of the entire clutch so there will only be two holdbacks. The rest have to go. If I could keep these guys into adulthood I believe I could tell exactly what they are but I have no reason to keep them. I cannot determine at this time if they are Lesser or Mojave Spiders. Anyone have any insight? I am leaning to them all being Mojave Spiders but that defies the odds a tad. They have shed one time so far.



This second batch is definitely Mojave Spider. Pairing was Super Mojave Spider to Mojave. I include it for reference. They have not shed yet.


now that I see them on the screen the top right in the first picture and the bottom three appear to be yellow while the other 2 seem to be much more pale. I am partially color blind... so who knows, i may be seeing things

[Stealth3]

I wish I could help the problem am having is looking at photos online you get 2 or 3 totally different looking snakes but listed as the same morphs gets really confusing lol


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[rlditmars]

Regardless of the odds I believe you hit all Mojave Spiders. I would expect if they were Lesser they would have more of a Cocoa brown coloration but these are leaning closer to black. Congrats on the nice clutch.

[JodanOrNoDan]

Regardless of the odds I believe you hit all Mojave Spiders. I would expect if they were Lesser they would have more of a Cocoa brown coloration but these are leaning closer to black. Congrats on the nice clutch.

Thanks, I over estimated my ID skills on this one. Normally I can nail anything in the BEL complex, but these were killing me.

[santaclaraball]

I have produced a decent # of lesserbees and they can be somewhat variable. But I have never had one come out with that many eyes on the sides. They are also usually more blushed in the black areas of the pattern. Also het. Lavenders lighten the pattern considerably.
Yours look like mojave spiders in my opinion.