Known Genetic Defects?

[paulh]

The only info is the absence of records or the animal itself. Try finding records of a woma x woma pairing, most refer to hgw x hgw before people knew they were hgw and not woma. woma x spiders are claimed to be viable by many as "they have one" yet I haven't been able to find one that actually proved out to have both woma and spider gene. So there no evidence of them being lethal besides the absence of evidence. What if woma is just a dominant morph, what if spider womas are allelic. Given I feel it is unlikely looking at correlations with other neuro morphs, still the thing is we don't know, we just assume. I'm even fine with educated assuming, but what data are we assuming based off of? Almost nothing.

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Breeding black head to woma might be more productive than spider to woma. The black head and spider genes seem to be allelic, so if black head and woma are allelic, then spider and woma are also allelic. With black head/spider ball pythons viable, then black head/womas are likely to be viable, too.

[OhhWatALoser]

Breeding black head to woma might be more productive than spider to woma. The black head and spider genes seem to be allelic, so if black head and woma are allelic, then spider and woma are also allelic. With black head/spider ball pythons viable, then black head/womas are likely to be viable, too.

If I had a blackhead I would try it, but I do not.

[asplundii]

It is my suspicion that woma, champagne etc will prove out to be co-dom just like the spider and some if not all turn out to be allelic with spider.

Breeding black head to woma might be more productive than spider to woma. The black head and spider genes seem to be allelic, so if black head and woma are allelic, then spider and woma are also allelic. With black head/spider ball pythons viable, then black head/womas are likely to be viable, too.

The idea that Spider, Champ, Woma and HGW might be allelic has been around for a while, Nick Mutton first mentioned it to me five or six years ago. I had the same thought about breeding Blackhead to them to prove it out shortly after BH and Spider were shown to be allelic. To date HGW/BH and Champ/BH have been made but I have not heard of them being bred out. The HGW/BH was done by Matt Leher (sp??) three years back so I would think it should be breeding size by now assuming it was male. The first Champ/BH I heard of was made in '16 and the guy was a first time breeder and did not know the sex of the animal. I have not heard anything about how that animal has matured/fared...