Also if you had read what I said I know color doesn't come in fully yet and why I stated I'm waiting till after it's first shed to try and tell but people just stick to their own opinions and own ways of doing stuff like did I cut them at day 40 or so no I didn't what's he big deal I can go find links to people who have cut at day 45 on purpose to show it doesn't effect them but that's even a bit much for me day 50 is the lowest for the main reason all my clutches this year and last have hatched at day 52 to 55 never later so me cutting at day is completely reasonable as mine always hatch early

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